WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.580 --> 00:00:11.290 Tom Wilde: Okay. Hello, everybody. Hello, and welcome. Great to have you with us. My name is Tom Wild from prowriting aid. 2 00:00:11.360 --> 00:00:38.289 Tom Wilde: and I'm really delighted. You can join us today wherever you're joining from. Many of you will have been part of these sessions before, if that's the case. Lisha, you're 1st with a hello from Idaho. That's great, you know. You know the drill. Please tell us where you're where you're calling in from in chat helps us make sure that everything's working. Okay, it just gives everyone a couple of minutes to to drop in and join, too. Hi, Tara! From Belgium 3 00:00:38.986 --> 00:00:44.399 Tom Wilde: sherry from. Well, it's it's moving so quickly now. Sorry, Sherry. I completely lost. 4 00:00:44.400 --> 00:00:44.920 Eilidh Locherty: There! 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One welcome, all really delighted to have you with us for well, it's I think it's our last session of the 1st day of Science Fiction writers week and 11 00:01:36.410 --> 00:01:56.320 Tom Wilde: I hope you've had a great day so far. We've got so many great sessions for you throughout the week. As you can see on the screen right now. We're just gonna walk through a few housekeeping bits and pieces before we get started. Many of you will be very familiar with those. But just give me a minute to help anybody who's here for the 1st time. 12 00:01:56.320 --> 00:02:17.750 Tom Wilde: just to understand how we run these sessions, how you can access everything you need to. So let's have a look at that. So let's start off by looking at replays. So for your replays from Monday to Thursday sessions. They're available to everyone in the Hub. Once they're processed by Zoom, it should be relatively quickly. 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If you're not already a member, you can keep talking to all your Science Fiction writing fans. Keep up to date with all of our events. There's the link. I'll post a few of these links actually in chat as we go along today. So I'll do some in a minute, and I'll add some later on as well. So you can access the hub, the community page, and everything else you need to. 19 00:04:22.420 --> 00:04:30.298 Tom Wilde: And I think we're nearly there just a couple of reminders for these sessions or this particular session. And again, many of you will be familiar with this. 20 00:04:30.850 --> 00:04:59.490 Tom Wilde: if you. There are a lot of us here today, and that's fantastic. If you have a question for Ailey, please use the QA. The question and answer, tab on your screen that way. I know Ailey's got a dedicated part for in her presentation in her workshop today for Q. And a. But that way we won't miss your question. There will be lots of discussion, I hope, going on in chat at the same time throughout the presentation. So if you post your question in chat, there is a chance 21 00:04:59.490 --> 00:05:05.730 Tom Wilde: that it will be lost. So yeah. And with links like, I said. 22 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:12.059 Tom Wilde: Oh, there we go. Links are on the hub. I'm just gonna post a link to the hub. Now. 23 00:05:13.250 --> 00:05:28.539 Tom Wilde: there we go. You should have that in chat, and that's it. We're ready to go. So let me just stop sharing. I'm going to introduce you to today's guests, and then I'm going to hand over, and I'm going to sit quietly in the background and listen and watch intently. So 24 00:05:28.760 --> 00:05:55.140 Tom Wilde: I'm absolutely delighted today to be joined by Ailey Lockerty. In fact, I'm doubly delighted because Ailey is one of our editor partners at prowriting Ace. She joined our partner network as one of the well. Actually she was one of the reasons we. We founded it in the 1st place, and we work quite a lot with Ailey throughout the course this year, and it's been delightful, let me tell you a little bit about Ailey. So Alie is a certified line and copy editor and founder of Chapter Divine Studio. 25 00:05:55.140 --> 00:06:03.409 Tom Wilde: specializing in Science fiction, fantasy, romance. She's passionate about helping indie authors bring out the best in their manuscripts. 26 00:06:03.410 --> 00:06:12.369 Tom Wilde: ensuring their unique voices, shine through with a specific interest in bringing out underrepresented voices due to being disabled herself 27 00:06:12.760 --> 00:06:23.800 Tom Wilde: when not working alien joys, getting lost in a good book, that we all dreaming up new ideas or savoring her signature. Peach iced tea. And that's a new fact I found out today. And I'm 28 00:06:23.830 --> 00:06:46.140 Tom Wilde: that's good to try some. Okay. So today, Amy is going to be taking us through her workshop on conflict that hits hard tension, that leaves a mark. She's going to dive or delve into the madness that is showing tension and conflict effectively with techniques intended to elevate your storytelling, make your making your words not only effective, but also unforgettable. 29 00:06:46.170 --> 00:06:48.199 Tom Wilde: So there we have it, Ailey 30 00:06:48.270 --> 00:06:56.579 Tom Wilde: great to have you with us, really, really pleased and delighted you could join us for this session. I'm going to hand over to you. I'm going to turn my camera off and just sit in the background. 31 00:06:56.580 --> 00:07:00.600 Eilidh Locherty: Before I do that. There was a question in here about when the networking sessions are. 32 00:07:01.340 --> 00:07:03.459 Tom Wilde: Oh, okay. Well, I tell you what, let's go. 33 00:07:03.830 --> 00:07:10.220 Tom Wilde: I will get an answer on that, and I'll come back to you. So thanks for that question. I'll put that in chat as we go along. 34 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:14.135 Eilidh Locherty: Wonderful. Now I need to figure out how to share my screen. 35 00:07:16.565 --> 00:07:17.410 Eilidh Locherty: Oh. 36 00:07:17.410 --> 00:07:23.039 Tom Wilde: Have a share screen button and should be the 3rd tab along on the bottom of your screen. 37 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:25.640 Tom Wilde: unless I haven't. 38 00:07:26.870 --> 00:07:27.760 Eilidh Locherty: Yes. 39 00:07:29.320 --> 00:07:30.550 Tom Wilde: Yeah, you should. 40 00:07:32.210 --> 00:07:33.130 Tom Wilde: Do. You see? 41 00:07:33.130 --> 00:07:36.139 Eilidh Locherty: Send me the photo of what I need here so 42 00:07:36.290 --> 00:07:38.720 Eilidh Locherty: entire screen. 43 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:42.739 Eilidh Locherty: Sometimes it's under more. 44 00:07:42.790 --> 00:07:44.000 Eilidh Locherty: Thank you. 45 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:50.219 Tom Wilde: You should have mute and then stop video and then share screen. But if not, look at the 3 dots. Yeah. 46 00:07:51.860 --> 00:07:57.130 Eilidh Locherty: If we give me a moment sorry for these technical difficulties already. 47 00:07:58.340 --> 00:08:02.169 Tom Wilde: That's okay. I'm just looking to see if that's something on my end. 48 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:12.150 Eilidh Locherty: Oh, it's asking me to grant access. Why didn't I do that sooner? 49 00:08:14.940 --> 00:08:17.410 Tom Wilde: So you, yeah, host. 50 00:08:29.300 --> 00:08:29.850 Tom Wilde: yeah. 51 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:35.249 Eilidh Locherty: I think it's that for me as well, cause it's like it's now asking me to quit and reopen. 52 00:08:36.630 --> 00:08:39.030 Tom Wilde: Is that? It's asking you to quit and reopen zoom. 53 00:08:39.030 --> 00:08:39.700 Eilidh Locherty: Yeah. 54 00:08:40.379 --> 00:08:47.399 Tom Wilde: Let me. Why is that not working? Let me, I wonder if I if I you, should be co-host at the moment. 55 00:08:47.400 --> 00:08:48.080 Eilidh Locherty: Yeah. 56 00:08:48.260 --> 00:08:48.930 Tom Wilde: Thing 57 00:08:49.460 --> 00:08:51.010 Tom Wilde: so. 58 00:08:51.140 --> 00:08:53.140 Tom Wilde: and I'm not sharing. 59 00:08:59.010 --> 00:09:01.669 Eilidh Locherty: I'm happy to just hop off and hop back on. 60 00:09:01.860 --> 00:09:05.410 Tom Wilde: Yeah, let me see, I'm just gonna make you host and see if that changes your permissions. 61 00:09:05.690 --> 00:09:08.020 Eilidh Locherty: Probably not. It's asking me to. 62 00:09:08.020 --> 00:09:08.740 Tom Wilde: I see. 63 00:09:09.280 --> 00:09:15.130 Tom Wilde: Yeah, no. Do you want to rejoin quickly, Aileen, and then we'll see if that. 64 00:09:15.130 --> 00:09:17.870 Eilidh Locherty: Indeed, I'll do that. I'll be back in a moment. 65 00:09:18.130 --> 00:09:18.900 Tom Wilde: Yeah. 66 00:09:20.170 --> 00:09:31.099 Tom Wilde: no problem. Okay, yeah. Thanks for suggestions. Everyone. Yeah, Mike, we have a she was. She is co-host already. So I'm not sure the problem 67 00:09:31.630 --> 00:09:35.199 Tom Wilde: is, but we will get started. And in the meantime. 68 00:09:35.670 --> 00:09:40.279 Tom Wilde: yeah, if you've got any questions for me. I can look up the networking sessions. Question 69 00:09:40.904 --> 00:09:42.840 Tom Wilde: and let me just 70 00:09:44.700 --> 00:09:47.880 Tom Wilde: grab an answer for you while we're going along. 71 00:09:50.930 --> 00:09:52.250 Tom Wilde: Okay. 72 00:09:53.770 --> 00:09:54.800 Eilidh Locherty: Okey, dokey. 73 00:09:54.800 --> 00:09:57.120 Tom Wilde: Just making you co-host a. 74 00:09:57.620 --> 00:09:58.710 Eilidh Locherty: No worries. 75 00:10:02.520 --> 00:10:05.909 Eilidh Locherty: I am back, and hopefully it shall work this time. 76 00:10:10.280 --> 00:10:22.520 Tom Wilde: While you're doing that, I'm just gonna offer a word of advice to anyone who struggles slightly with the pronunciation of Ailey's name. She gave me a great tip, which is just remember, it's just like Haley, but without the h. 77 00:10:23.520 --> 00:10:24.829 Tom Wilde: Works me every time 78 00:10:24.940 --> 00:10:25.790 Tom Wilde: brilliant. 79 00:10:26.230 --> 00:10:26.960 Tom Wilde: If. 80 00:10:27.110 --> 00:10:28.240 Eilidh Locherty: It's because of 81 00:10:28.350 --> 00:10:40.949 Eilidh Locherty: a lot of the American people that I've met. They're all they don't. They always know how to say Ailey, after hearing Haley. Yeah. So I find it's the easiest way to do it. Let me see if I can. 82 00:10:41.410 --> 00:10:43.570 Eilidh Locherty: Okay, this is more promising. 83 00:10:44.610 --> 00:10:46.809 Eilidh Locherty: This is definitely more promising. 84 00:10:51.380 --> 00:10:55.279 Eilidh Locherty: Okay, Dookie, let me just. 85 00:11:04.950 --> 00:11:06.510 Tom Wilde: Okay, there, we go. 86 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:09.380 Eilidh Locherty: It's not showing the right screen, but it is now. 87 00:11:09.550 --> 00:11:13.680 Tom Wilde: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna sit, step back, hey? Good luck! And we'll talk at the end. 88 00:11:14.417 --> 00:11:15.892 Eilidh Locherty: Thank you. 89 00:11:18.550 --> 00:11:25.510 Eilidh Locherty: Okay, Dokey. So Hello, I am Ailey. And this is the presentation on for today. 90 00:11:25.690 --> 00:11:34.710 Eilidh Locherty: So today we're going to be talking about conflict, and how we can use that alongside tension in order to strengthen our manuscripts. Be it 91 00:11:35.060 --> 00:11:36.450 Eilidh Locherty: fiction. 92 00:11:36.750 --> 00:11:44.970 Eilidh Locherty: creative, whatever avenue that you go down, you can use it in whatever you find easiest and best for your work. 93 00:11:46.940 --> 00:11:49.060 Eilidh Locherty: So I'd 1st like to thank 94 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:54.720 Eilidh Locherty: Tom and Team for allowing me to do this talk. This is my 1st ever talk 95 00:11:54.780 --> 00:12:06.299 Eilidh Locherty: as you can tell. I am very new with the whole zoom thing, and I just appreciate you all for being here. So thank you very much for your time, you know, for taking time out of your day for being here today. 96 00:12:10.650 --> 00:12:23.440 Eilidh Locherty: So this is just a quick reminder. The presentation will take about 4 or 5 min, allowing for about 15 or so minutes for questions. Questions will be at the end, so, as Tom says meant. 97 00:12:23.580 --> 00:12:33.629 Eilidh Locherty: add any questions into the Q. And a box, and that will be where we can see those questions. You can re-watch the presentation if you have to step out at any time. 98 00:12:33.760 --> 00:12:37.629 Eilidh Locherty: That's no problem. Do what's best for you. You'll be able to 99 00:12:37.650 --> 00:12:43.340 Eilidh Locherty: go and review. I've got the exact presentation here 100 00:12:43.510 --> 00:12:46.909 Eilidh Locherty: for you to view again. You can 101 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:53.690 Eilidh Locherty: print it out. You you could do whatever you would like with it, anything to help you with your own work. 102 00:12:53.910 --> 00:13:00.780 Eilidh Locherty: and if you have any questions, put it in the chat, or if you would like, you can DM, me or email me 103 00:13:00.860 --> 00:13:02.189 Eilidh Locherty: if you've got any. 104 00:13:02.450 --> 00:13:05.490 Eilidh Locherty: you know questions after this presentation. 105 00:13:07.490 --> 00:13:10.929 Eilidh Locherty: So what we will be covering today is 106 00:13:11.070 --> 00:13:20.839 Eilidh Locherty: what conflict is and how it contributes to a great story. There will be live examples of some novels that do do this well. 107 00:13:20.900 --> 00:13:26.040 Eilidh Locherty: because I find that always having examples helps kind of intricate that into your mind. 108 00:13:26.656 --> 00:13:29.569 Eilidh Locherty: How you can write conflict that's realistic 109 00:13:29.710 --> 00:13:30.930 Eilidh Locherty: and doesn't drag 110 00:13:31.900 --> 00:13:37.020 Eilidh Locherty: ways of tightening scenes so how you can edit them as well as write them. 111 00:13:38.470 --> 00:13:39.630 Eilidh Locherty: And 112 00:13:39.660 --> 00:13:41.630 Eilidh Locherty: going from there, we can kind of 113 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:44.429 Eilidh Locherty: if you've got any questions, as it says 114 00:13:44.550 --> 00:13:45.680 Eilidh Locherty: we could do that. 115 00:13:46.190 --> 00:13:47.260 Eilidh Locherty: So 116 00:13:47.580 --> 00:13:54.909 Eilidh Locherty: I'm Ellie. I think everybody knows that at this point. I write dystopian mystery and romance. 117 00:13:54.940 --> 00:13:59.060 Eilidh Locherty: For for the most part I do quite like writing kind of 118 00:13:59.110 --> 00:14:10.899 Eilidh Locherty: little bits here and there. Just depends on how I feel. I'm a copy online editor and I am neurodivergent. I've got Adhd. I've got cerebral palsy. So I'm disabled. 119 00:14:12.220 --> 00:14:13.260 Eilidh Locherty: and 120 00:14:14.180 --> 00:14:15.959 Eilidh Locherty: I'm here today to talk 121 00:14:16.100 --> 00:14:19.750 Eilidh Locherty: about, not Phd. But writing. But 122 00:14:19.790 --> 00:14:26.929 Eilidh Locherty: peach tea is something I would also like to talk about, and I will give you that recipe, Tom, and if anyone else wants that recipe. 123 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:28.830 Eilidh Locherty: I will also give you that raspber. 124 00:14:30.770 --> 00:14:36.600 Eilidh Locherty: So some of my core values when it comes to being an editor, is education. 125 00:14:36.710 --> 00:14:38.279 Eilidh Locherty: So a big part of 126 00:14:38.680 --> 00:14:42.460 Eilidh Locherty: kind of what I like to do for the most part, is 127 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:48.650 Eilidh Locherty: educating people with my edits, with my posts, with anything that I like doing. 128 00:14:49.010 --> 00:14:50.060 Eilidh Locherty: and 129 00:14:50.790 --> 00:14:53.229 Eilidh Locherty: a big part of that is 130 00:14:53.270 --> 00:14:59.280 Eilidh Locherty: being able to explain why certain things happen in novels, why we didn't 131 00:14:59.340 --> 00:15:02.420 Eilidh Locherty: certain changes, certain things 132 00:15:02.450 --> 00:15:05.360 Eilidh Locherty: to just improve your manuscript. 133 00:15:05.730 --> 00:15:07.750 Eilidh Locherty: So a big part of that is 134 00:15:07.930 --> 00:15:10.500 Eilidh Locherty: being mindful of 135 00:15:10.810 --> 00:15:14.600 Eilidh Locherty: what you want to do in your novel, and 136 00:15:14.950 --> 00:15:18.519 Eilidh Locherty: having that informed decision when you make certain changes. 137 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:25.159 Eilidh Locherty: Another big part of that is being transparent. So if there's a certain change that needs to be made. 138 00:15:25.170 --> 00:15:33.500 Eilidh Locherty: if there's certain things that shouldn't be happening in a novel, because, say, it's not mindful and conscious language. 139 00:15:33.690 --> 00:15:36.459 Eilidh Locherty: I'm here to be honest with you. 140 00:15:36.900 --> 00:15:43.810 Eilidh Locherty: but I'm also here to do that in a way that is mindful of my own language, because 141 00:15:44.110 --> 00:15:45.570 Eilidh Locherty: there's a balance 142 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:50.490 Eilidh Locherty: and finally collaborating. I love working with Indie writers 143 00:15:50.530 --> 00:15:56.690 Eilidh Locherty: and having that conversation opening that conversation is really important to me, and I find that's what 144 00:15:56.820 --> 00:16:00.969 Eilidh Locherty: I do best when it comes to working with authors. 145 00:16:03.160 --> 00:16:05.139 Eilidh Locherty: Here's just a little cool guy like 146 00:16:06.020 --> 00:16:08.370 Eilidh Locherty: to allow myself to breathe for a minute. 147 00:16:12.670 --> 00:16:15.670 Eilidh Locherty: Okay, there. Okay, so what is conflict? Intention? 148 00:16:16.730 --> 00:16:22.719 Eilidh Locherty: So conflict is a big thing that it you kind of need it in your novel. 149 00:16:23.220 --> 00:16:25.930 Eilidh Locherty: It's what drives a story. 150 00:16:26.190 --> 00:16:27.050 Eilidh Locherty: And it 151 00:16:27.180 --> 00:16:32.320 Eilidh Locherty: gives you that problem that needs to be fixed 152 00:16:32.550 --> 00:16:33.699 Eilidh Locherty: in the novel. 153 00:16:34.160 --> 00:16:37.730 Eilidh Locherty: So there's 2 kinds. There's internal. 154 00:16:37.850 --> 00:16:39.539 Eilidh Locherty: and there's external. 155 00:16:39.880 --> 00:16:43.649 Eilidh Locherty: both of which drive a novel, and you need both 156 00:16:43.770 --> 00:16:46.870 Eilidh Locherty: in order to push the story forward. 157 00:16:47.470 --> 00:16:51.720 Eilidh Locherty: you know. Be it clear stakes, motivations. 158 00:16:52.410 --> 00:16:56.160 Eilidh Locherty: There's so many things that you could do in order to 159 00:16:56.990 --> 00:16:58.289 Eilidh Locherty: drive that in. 160 00:16:58.860 --> 00:16:59.890 Eilidh Locherty: Now 161 00:17:00.010 --> 00:17:04.969 Eilidh Locherty: there's more than just, you know. You might have heard of the whole nurture versus nature. 162 00:17:05.470 --> 00:17:08.259 Eilidh Locherty: You know man versus nature, man versus 163 00:17:09.501 --> 00:17:14.330 Eilidh Locherty: technology, that type of thing. There's a lot more that goes into it 164 00:17:14.579 --> 00:17:17.930 Eilidh Locherty: and allows you to essentially 165 00:17:19.020 --> 00:17:30.289 Eilidh Locherty: put in your novel and do things that will make your book stand out, especially if you do certain things to make it as realistic as possible for your character. 166 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:41.629 Eilidh Locherty: The problem in when I what I see a lot isn't that there's no conflict. It's the conflict. It doesn't make sense for your character, and 167 00:17:41.970 --> 00:17:43.010 Eilidh Locherty: there's 168 00:17:43.260 --> 00:17:47.479 Eilidh Locherty: plot driven, and there's character driven, and sometimes 169 00:17:47.620 --> 00:17:50.269 Eilidh Locherty: you kind of have to have a 170 00:17:50.390 --> 00:17:52.450 Eilidh Locherty: character-driven novel 171 00:17:53.080 --> 00:17:55.090 Eilidh Locherty: in the way of conflict. 172 00:17:55.130 --> 00:17:57.799 Eilidh Locherty: because if it doesn't make sense for the character. 173 00:17:57.930 --> 00:18:01.949 Eilidh Locherty: Why wouldn't? Why why should the reader 174 00:18:02.360 --> 00:18:03.130 Eilidh Locherty: care? 175 00:18:03.320 --> 00:18:05.270 Eilidh Locherty: And that's a big part of that. 176 00:18:05.800 --> 00:18:09.009 Eilidh Locherty: And also tension goes hand in hand with conflict. 177 00:18:09.320 --> 00:18:19.020 Eilidh Locherty: Conflict tends to drive some tension up. So it's about, you know the suspense, the emotional strain, the emotional emotional turmoil. 178 00:18:19.550 --> 00:18:23.240 Eilidh Locherty: What's the anticipation? What's the uncertainty 179 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:25.480 Eilidh Locherty: while conflict 180 00:18:25.870 --> 00:18:27.380 Eilidh Locherty: is important. 181 00:18:27.670 --> 00:18:32.129 Eilidh Locherty: Tension helps the reader to flip the page. 182 00:18:34.410 --> 00:18:39.550 Eilidh Locherty: So, as I says, what different kinds of conflict is there? There's man versus man. 183 00:18:39.610 --> 00:18:42.259 Eilidh Locherty: man versus society, man versus self. 184 00:18:42.450 --> 00:18:53.570 Eilidh Locherty: man versus time, destiny, temptation. There's loads of kinds of tension depending on what you want to do and what genre 185 00:18:54.060 --> 00:18:55.360 Eilidh Locherty: a big part 186 00:18:55.430 --> 00:19:02.070 Eilidh Locherty: of what I'm doing today is making sure that, regardless of the genre that you're working with. 187 00:19:02.120 --> 00:19:07.430 Eilidh Locherty: you know that there is a conflict that makes sense for your store. 188 00:19:08.460 --> 00:19:09.530 Eilidh Locherty: So 189 00:19:09.620 --> 00:19:11.029 Eilidh Locherty: with that in mind. 190 00:19:11.520 --> 00:19:21.070 Eilidh Locherty: a big part of what I'm excited to talk about are these examples, because these are novels that I've read, that I've enjoyed that I've studied 191 00:19:21.820 --> 00:19:25.440 Eilidh Locherty: because a big part of what I enjoy doing is studying novels. 192 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:26.920 Eilidh Locherty: and 193 00:19:27.450 --> 00:19:29.589 Eilidh Locherty: I'm going to delve into 194 00:19:30.360 --> 00:19:32.519 Eilidh Locherty: the different kinds of 195 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.530 Eilidh Locherty: conflict and tension that will help 196 00:19:36.950 --> 00:19:45.649 Eilidh Locherty: with examples. So in this example, this is specifically the new novel of the hunger games, the bald of some bird birds and snakes. 197 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.539 Eilidh Locherty: So as you 198 00:19:49.020 --> 00:19:53.219 Eilidh Locherty: actually hands hands up. Who has read the New Hunger Games book? 199 00:19:55.610 --> 00:19:56.560 Eilidh Locherty: Okay. 200 00:19:57.080 --> 00:19:59.210 Eilidh Locherty: 3, girl, bye. Oh. 201 00:20:00.970 --> 00:20:01.940 Eilidh Locherty: awesome. 202 00:20:03.350 --> 00:20:04.740 Eilidh Locherty: So 203 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:08.730 Eilidh Locherty: for anybody who's not read it. It's a prequel 204 00:20:08.750 --> 00:20:10.100 Eilidh Locherty: for 205 00:20:10.636 --> 00:20:13.829 Eilidh Locherty: the hunger games. So it takes place 206 00:20:13.900 --> 00:20:15.730 Eilidh Locherty: in kind of a world 207 00:20:15.910 --> 00:20:19.070 Eilidh Locherty: before the whole 208 00:20:19.150 --> 00:20:23.810 Eilidh Locherty: hunger games existed, and it goes into 209 00:20:25.070 --> 00:20:27.170 Eilidh Locherty: it goes into a 210 00:20:27.570 --> 00:20:34.670 Eilidh Locherty: prequel before Katniss Everdeen existed. When Carolina Snow Aka, the Big bad in the initial 211 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:36.150 Eilidh Locherty: series. 212 00:20:36.350 --> 00:20:37.210 Eilidh Locherty: you know. 213 00:20:37.550 --> 00:20:43.689 Eilidh Locherty: before he became who he was, it was his villain origin story, as I like to call it. 214 00:20:44.826 --> 00:20:46.800 Eilidh Locherty: So his 215 00:20:47.300 --> 00:20:50.919 Eilidh Locherty: conflict was man versus man. 216 00:20:51.320 --> 00:20:52.880 Eilidh Locherty: Now, what do I mean by that 217 00:20:53.260 --> 00:20:54.880 Eilidh Locherty: right? So 218 00:20:55.310 --> 00:20:57.500 Eilidh Locherty: when it comes to man versus man. 219 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:03.020 Eilidh Locherty: what ends up happening is, there's a conflict between 2 or more people. 220 00:21:03.470 --> 00:21:09.989 Eilidh Locherty: So the person that's there who tends to be. The main character doesn't have to be, but in this instance it is. 221 00:21:10.250 --> 00:21:11.390 Eilidh Locherty: And 222 00:21:11.550 --> 00:21:12.780 Eilidh Locherty: another 223 00:21:12.910 --> 00:21:14.950 Eilidh Locherty: person or people 224 00:21:16.080 --> 00:21:17.980 Eilidh Locherty: a few good examples is 225 00:21:17.990 --> 00:21:19.070 Eilidh Locherty: Carlin. 226 00:21:19.190 --> 00:21:24.339 Eilidh Locherty: I can't talk today. Now, Coriolinus and the Janus Plinth. 227 00:21:24.900 --> 00:21:25.960 Eilidh Locherty: Now 228 00:21:26.140 --> 00:21:27.969 Eilidh Locherty: they, too, are 229 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:33.170 Eilidh Locherty: colleagues, if you will, and students together in the same school. 230 00:21:33.490 --> 00:21:34.760 Eilidh Locherty: Obviously they're 231 00:21:34.810 --> 00:21:44.309 Eilidh Locherty: trying to go in for this plinth prize in order to win, because it'll give snow that leg up in 232 00:21:45.310 --> 00:21:52.969 Eilidh Locherty: becoming president, because obviously a big thing he wants is that power given his per his. 233 00:21:53.930 --> 00:21:57.499 Eilidh Locherty: the nature of how Puri is at that present moment in time. 234 00:21:57.870 --> 00:22:06.519 Eilidh Locherty: So he's finding that to be a level of conflict, that he's having to deal with on a day to day basis. 235 00:22:07.270 --> 00:22:10.960 Eilidh Locherty: Another example of that is Lucy Greybeard, who is 236 00:22:11.080 --> 00:22:13.110 Eilidh Locherty: the love interest, if you will. 237 00:22:13.736 --> 00:22:17.230 Eilidh Locherty: He is using her as a leg up 238 00:22:17.570 --> 00:22:19.739 Eilidh Locherty: in order to get that 239 00:22:20.530 --> 00:22:21.940 Eilidh Locherty: power trip 240 00:22:22.310 --> 00:22:25.019 Eilidh Locherty: and into getting into that power. 241 00:22:25.950 --> 00:22:30.219 Eilidh Locherty: And the way that he does that is through control. 242 00:22:30.420 --> 00:22:34.450 Eilidh Locherty: and even though their relationship was good. To begin with. 243 00:22:34.900 --> 00:22:38.579 Eilidh Locherty: he sees this hung hunger for power. 244 00:22:38.690 --> 00:22:39.690 Eilidh Locherty: and 245 00:22:40.310 --> 00:22:42.460 Eilidh Locherty: he messes up for himself. 246 00:22:42.760 --> 00:22:47.050 Eilidh Locherty: and he ends up. Obviously at the end of the novel he ends up 247 00:22:47.120 --> 00:22:50.929 Eilidh Locherty: failing, and not only losing that relationship. 248 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:53.139 Eilidh Locherty: but kind of losing 249 00:22:53.500 --> 00:22:54.980 Eilidh Locherty: his old self. 250 00:22:55.340 --> 00:22:58.160 Eilidh Locherty: If anyone has read the novel. 251 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:00.540 Eilidh Locherty: You'll understand that. Quote 252 00:23:01.020 --> 00:23:03.860 Eilidh Locherty: every time I say it. I I can't help but laugh. 253 00:23:05.580 --> 00:23:16.459 Eilidh Locherty: But another part of the conflict is his conflict with Dr. Gall, who is the game maker of the hungry games. 254 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:17.690 Eilidh Locherty: and 255 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:22.280 Eilidh Locherty: she is obviously going in and trying to 256 00:23:22.550 --> 00:23:23.440 Eilidh Locherty: pish 257 00:23:23.670 --> 00:23:24.909 Eilidh Locherty: for him 258 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:28.050 Eilidh Locherty: to become another game maker 259 00:23:28.330 --> 00:23:32.420 Eilidh Locherty: end up being that person who makes the games and 260 00:23:32.910 --> 00:23:35.160 Eilidh Locherty: goes into power even more. 261 00:23:35.810 --> 00:23:38.299 Eilidh Locherty: And that is something 262 00:23:38.790 --> 00:23:43.170 Eilidh Locherty: that he's having to fight against, because he doesn't know whether he wants 263 00:23:43.390 --> 00:23:44.479 Eilidh Locherty: that kind of 264 00:23:44.610 --> 00:23:50.720 Eilidh Locherty: power, or whether he wants a more positive power. Given his experiences with his father, and 265 00:23:51.140 --> 00:23:53.290 Eilidh Locherty: just the people all around them. 266 00:23:54.890 --> 00:23:58.879 Eilidh Locherty: Another level of that is just his peers. 267 00:23:58.890 --> 00:24:02.779 Eilidh Locherty: He has rivalries with people at the Academy. 268 00:24:03.010 --> 00:24:06.130 Eilidh Locherty: just people in the capital 269 00:24:06.290 --> 00:24:11.070 Eilidh Locherty: who are essentially using him, but he's using them. 270 00:24:11.130 --> 00:24:14.660 Eilidh Locherty: And it's a constant fight against who? 271 00:24:15.790 --> 00:24:17.120 Eilidh Locherty: Who's going to win? 272 00:24:18.120 --> 00:24:20.160 Eilidh Locherty: Who's not going to win? And 273 00:24:20.320 --> 00:24:21.810 Eilidh Locherty: essentially. 274 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.159 Eilidh Locherty: just what is it going to be 275 00:24:25.760 --> 00:24:29.260 Eilidh Locherty: that is going to make things interesting. 276 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:36.339 Eilidh Locherty: Now, essentially, he hates the districts because that's a big part of the novels as a whole. 277 00:24:36.380 --> 00:24:41.560 Eilidh Locherty: And what ends up happening in this is his hatred. 278 00:24:41.630 --> 00:24:45.389 Eilidh Locherty: drives the tension, and drives 279 00:24:45.840 --> 00:24:48.809 Eilidh Locherty: him to go as far as he did 280 00:24:48.860 --> 00:24:50.960 Eilidh Locherty: to become presents. No. 281 00:24:51.020 --> 00:24:56.510 Eilidh Locherty: he hates the capital. That much that he ends up leaving. 282 00:24:56.870 --> 00:25:00.690 Eilidh Locherty: you know, the whole path of being the nice guy 283 00:25:00.750 --> 00:25:11.110 Eilidh Locherty: and going into power because he wants to control the districts in the way that he wants to remind them that you know his dad died his. 284 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:14.369 Eilidh Locherty: you know his relationships are torn. 285 00:25:14.690 --> 00:25:16.560 Eilidh Locherty: and that he wants that power. 286 00:25:16.980 --> 00:25:22.749 Eilidh Locherty: So that is the hunger games. And why man versus man is a big part of that. 287 00:25:22.870 --> 00:25:28.790 Eilidh Locherty: as some might know. Obviously, there's another layer. There's multiple. 288 00:25:28.890 --> 00:25:34.659 Eilidh Locherty: There's multiple conflicts within this novel. It's so layered. It's pretty 289 00:25:34.670 --> 00:25:37.690 Eilidh Locherty: powerful, but this is one of the main ones. 290 00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:44.589 Eilidh Locherty: Now, another one is man versus society, the handmaid's tale. 291 00:25:44.870 --> 00:25:49.060 Eilidh Locherty: This is a novel that I read, especially when I was at school. 292 00:25:49.300 --> 00:25:52.120 Eilidh Locherty: and this is a novel that 293 00:25:52.300 --> 00:25:53.990 Eilidh Locherty: might be a bit 294 00:25:54.420 --> 00:26:01.870 Eilidh Locherty: hard hitting. Given everything that's going on in the media. I understand, if this is a trigger, so if you need to take a step. 295 00:26:02.860 --> 00:26:04.879 Eilidh Locherty: there's nothing wrong with that 296 00:26:04.970 --> 00:26:13.329 Eilidh Locherty: but a big part of the man versus society is the oppressive regime, and how she is stuck in Gilead. 297 00:26:13.470 --> 00:26:17.430 Eilidh Locherty: where they're stripped of their rights, and essentially they 298 00:26:17.560 --> 00:26:21.589 Eilidh Locherty: don't have the rights that they have. They can't 299 00:26:22.020 --> 00:26:23.800 Eilidh Locherty: have a job, they can't. 300 00:26:24.320 --> 00:26:27.550 Eilidh Locherty: They can only go to school in certain ways. 301 00:26:27.830 --> 00:26:31.740 Eilidh Locherty: If they can bear children, they have to do that. 302 00:26:32.780 --> 00:26:37.570 Eilidh Locherty: A big part of that is the loss of automate that they have. 303 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:39.100 Eilidh Locherty: and how 304 00:26:39.210 --> 00:26:43.029 Eilidh Locherty: men basically run their life similar to 305 00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:49.160 Eilidh Locherty: however, many years ago, where the woman is the person that 306 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:53.250 Eilidh Locherty: runs the home while the man runs 307 00:26:53.380 --> 00:26:55.269 Eilidh Locherty: work and gets the money. 308 00:26:55.570 --> 00:26:59.020 Eilidh Locherty: But it there it goes a step further than that. 309 00:26:59.430 --> 00:27:05.150 Eilidh Locherty: Given the level of autonomy that women in this 310 00:27:05.170 --> 00:27:06.240 Eilidh Locherty: world 311 00:27:06.340 --> 00:27:07.470 Eilidh Locherty: has lost. 312 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.460 Eilidh Locherty: they can't have their own children. 313 00:27:11.530 --> 00:27:13.950 Eilidh Locherty: they have to give it to the person 314 00:27:14.210 --> 00:27:16.180 Eilidh Locherty: who's higher up. 315 00:27:16.670 --> 00:27:17.630 Eilidh Locherty: and 316 00:27:18.580 --> 00:27:23.480 Eilidh Locherty: they're going from person to person to person in order to 317 00:27:24.030 --> 00:27:25.220 Eilidh Locherty: be 318 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:28.609 Eilidh Locherty: the baby maker of that house. 319 00:27:30.330 --> 00:27:34.209 Eilidh Locherty: So a big part of that is the rebellion 320 00:27:34.250 --> 00:27:38.510 Eilidh Locherty: now in the Underground there was a rebellion of 321 00:27:39.150 --> 00:27:40.910 Eilidh Locherty: what was going on. 322 00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:44.060 Eilidh Locherty: because obviously back way back 323 00:27:44.290 --> 00:27:46.970 Eilidh Locherty: there was a life where this didn't happen. 324 00:27:47.110 --> 00:27:51.870 Eilidh Locherty: It was like it was today where men and women basically 325 00:27:52.540 --> 00:27:55.719 Eilidh Locherty: got to do what they wanted essentially, to some degree. 326 00:27:56.386 --> 00:28:00.250 Eilidh Locherty: but a big part of that is the fact that 327 00:28:01.100 --> 00:28:03.290 Eilidh Locherty: some people didn't want 328 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.290 Eilidh Locherty: to have this happen. And so a rebellion formed underground. 329 00:28:08.560 --> 00:28:11.430 Eilidh Locherty: and tried to have her represent 330 00:28:11.930 --> 00:28:27.829 Eilidh Locherty: the rebellion as time went on. But in this novel, specifically, because I'm going further into what the TV show now is. The novel focuses mainly on how the rebellion helped her to get out of 331 00:28:28.260 --> 00:28:31.070 Eilidh Locherty: where she was at that present moment in time. 332 00:28:31.380 --> 00:28:45.339 Eilidh Locherty: Now off, Red struggled with her identity throughout the entirety of the novel, because men they had the name of Off Red, which was of the person that they were in the house of. So 333 00:28:45.350 --> 00:28:48.039 Eilidh Locherty: of Fred rather than their own name. 334 00:28:48.350 --> 00:28:50.550 Eilidh Locherty: and depending on 335 00:28:51.380 --> 00:28:52.779 Eilidh Locherty: how old they were. 336 00:28:52.820 --> 00:28:54.949 Eilidh Locherty: how old these people were. 337 00:28:54.990 --> 00:28:59.439 Eilidh Locherty: Some might have not even known what their name was, or they might have forgotten 338 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.840 Eilidh Locherty: cause. For all we know, there could have been 339 00:29:02.860 --> 00:29:06.509 Eilidh Locherty: younger people who went up into this, and then kind of 340 00:29:06.780 --> 00:29:09.019 Eilidh Locherty: with all the curly, with all of the 341 00:29:09.380 --> 00:29:11.020 Eilidh Locherty: harrowing 342 00:29:11.060 --> 00:29:12.699 Eilidh Locherty: things that happened 343 00:29:12.900 --> 00:29:16.440 Eilidh Locherty: there would be a level of struggling for 344 00:29:16.450 --> 00:29:19.819 Eilidh Locherty: who are they? What are they there for? 345 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:23.960 Eilidh Locherty: Why is this happening to us? 346 00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.600 Eilidh Locherty: Because obviously there was some that became 347 00:29:28.113 --> 00:29:33.909 Eilidh Locherty: different kind of roles, if you will. So Martha's were like the 348 00:29:34.130 --> 00:29:37.699 Eilidh Locherty: makers of the house. They did the bread making. They did the 349 00:29:37.810 --> 00:29:39.860 Eilidh Locherty: cleaning and all that type of thing. 350 00:29:41.060 --> 00:29:46.990 Eilidh Locherty: And so a big part of that is the level of identity that they have lost. 351 00:29:49.040 --> 00:29:50.000 Eilidh Locherty: and 352 00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.209 Eilidh Locherty: going into surveillance and fear 353 00:29:53.770 --> 00:29:55.919 Eilidh Locherty: as well as inequality. 354 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.280 Eilidh Locherty: there is always 355 00:29:59.520 --> 00:30:04.369 Eilidh Locherty: a level of surveillance and fear. There's the eyes always keeping an eye on everything. 356 00:30:05.190 --> 00:30:06.939 Eilidh Locherty: and if you've 357 00:30:07.050 --> 00:30:08.280 Eilidh Locherty: broker rule 358 00:30:08.910 --> 00:30:10.689 Eilidh Locherty: you would have to 359 00:30:11.190 --> 00:30:12.820 Eilidh Locherty: see the eyes cause 360 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.880 Eilidh Locherty: there's guardians everywhere. 361 00:30:14.990 --> 00:30:16.060 Eilidh Locherty: And 362 00:30:16.100 --> 00:30:18.179 Eilidh Locherty: essentially there's a punishment. 363 00:30:18.650 --> 00:30:20.669 Eilidh Locherty: Now, a big part of this 364 00:30:21.250 --> 00:30:23.280 Eilidh Locherty: I would like to mention is 365 00:30:23.550 --> 00:30:26.079 Eilidh Locherty: that there are conflicts 366 00:30:26.460 --> 00:30:29.150 Eilidh Locherty: with natural consequences. 367 00:30:30.020 --> 00:30:31.360 Eilidh Locherty: But there's 368 00:30:31.510 --> 00:30:35.619 Eilidh Locherty: also ones with extreme 369 00:30:36.550 --> 00:30:37.175 Eilidh Locherty: circum. 370 00:30:38.550 --> 00:30:40.960 Eilidh Locherty: Extreme consequences 371 00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:45.289 Eilidh Locherty: now depending on the let. What type of novel you're doing is 372 00:30:45.450 --> 00:30:50.540 Eilidh Locherty: depending on how far astray you can go up in being more kind of 373 00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:59.120 Eilidh Locherty: difficult with the consequences to how natural they are. Cause in this instance of the handmaid's tale, because it's a dystopian. 374 00:30:59.930 --> 00:31:04.479 Eilidh Locherty: it can get away with being a bit more cruel than say. 375 00:31:04.810 --> 00:31:06.870 Eilidh Locherty: as contemporary romance. 376 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:22.350 Eilidh Locherty: Now the last example I would like to talk about is the fault in our stars. Now I did kind of have to go in between. I was trying to figure out which one to do for this example, because there's another novel that I thought of for this instance. 377 00:31:22.550 --> 00:31:25.470 Eilidh Locherty: But it's okay, because I've left it out for 378 00:31:25.760 --> 00:31:27.670 Eilidh Locherty: later on in this chat. 379 00:31:28.380 --> 00:31:29.570 Eilidh Locherty: so 380 00:31:29.850 --> 00:31:34.940 Eilidh Locherty: man versus time is another element of conflict. 381 00:31:35.450 --> 00:31:46.569 Eilidh Locherty: So a big part of that is the fact that Augustus and Hazel are both terminal with their cancer, which is term and obviously terminal illness. 382 00:31:46.620 --> 00:31:48.340 Eilidh Locherty: And that means that they're 383 00:31:48.520 --> 00:31:52.009 Eilidh Locherty: time, is limited in terms of what they can do 384 00:31:52.390 --> 00:31:56.299 Eilidh Locherty: and how long they have to make a relationship. 385 00:31:57.410 --> 00:31:58.390 Eilidh Locherty: So 386 00:31:58.890 --> 00:32:01.930 Eilidh Locherty: they were aware of the fact that 387 00:32:02.270 --> 00:32:03.510 Eilidh Locherty: they're all going to die. 388 00:32:03.700 --> 00:32:06.730 Eilidh Locherty: And a big part of this novel is 389 00:32:06.770 --> 00:32:08.810 Eilidh Locherty: the internal struggle. 390 00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.980 Eilidh Locherty: resolve, revolving around 391 00:32:14.110 --> 00:32:19.699 Eilidh Locherty: the awareness that she will likely die as a young adult 392 00:32:19.930 --> 00:32:22.920 Eilidh Locherty: or a young teen depending on 393 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.869 Eilidh Locherty: at what point she was thinking cause she was. 394 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.409 Eilidh Locherty: She had cancer from a very young age, and she 395 00:32:29.940 --> 00:32:32.829 Eilidh Locherty: grew up still having this cancer. 396 00:32:33.300 --> 00:32:36.070 Eilidh Locherty: So a big part of 397 00:32:36.930 --> 00:32:40.449 Eilidh Locherty: her awareness and her internal struggle 398 00:32:40.630 --> 00:32:41.600 Eilidh Locherty: is 399 00:32:43.040 --> 00:32:45.050 Eilidh Locherty: the knowledge of 400 00:32:47.380 --> 00:32:49.429 Eilidh Locherty: I'm going to die. So what's the point? 401 00:32:49.870 --> 00:32:53.109 Eilidh Locherty: What's the point in me doing anything? If 402 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.700 Eilidh Locherty: what's going to happen anyway? Is death. 403 00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.350 Eilidh Locherty: So what does she do? She 404 00:32:59.370 --> 00:33:06.010 Eilidh Locherty: basically goes to the support group just to appease her mother, as some of us sometimes do. 405 00:33:06.120 --> 00:33:07.140 Eilidh Locherty: and 406 00:33:07.300 --> 00:33:08.690 Eilidh Locherty: she meets 407 00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:13.999 Eilidh Locherty: Augustus. Augustus is a young man who also has cancer. 408 00:33:14.060 --> 00:33:20.799 Eilidh Locherty: and they begin developing this romance, which ended up blossoming extremely extremely fast. 409 00:33:21.420 --> 00:33:26.960 Eilidh Locherty: But this was short, lived because of the level of decline that Augustus had 410 00:33:27.530 --> 00:33:29.100 Eilidh Locherty: with his cancer. 411 00:33:29.360 --> 00:33:33.589 Eilidh Locherty: and it was faster than expected, and it forced them to come 412 00:33:33.970 --> 00:33:36.489 Eilidh Locherty: to confront this. 413 00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:42.739 Eilidh Locherty: and it was a beautiful moment where they were getting to be so close to each other. 414 00:33:42.820 --> 00:33:50.949 Eilidh Locherty: and essentially find out what they both love, what they want to do with their lives, and they got to share a trip to Amsterdam 415 00:33:51.360 --> 00:34:02.020 Eilidh Locherty: so that way hazel could meet her favorite author. But Augustus Augustus just got to spend time with Hazel, which is a beautiful moment that 416 00:34:02.050 --> 00:34:03.200 Eilidh Locherty: we watch. 417 00:34:04.230 --> 00:34:05.210 Eilidh Locherty: So 418 00:34:05.870 --> 00:34:07.389 Eilidh Locherty: they're aware of 419 00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:08.739 Eilidh Locherty: their illness. 420 00:34:09.810 --> 00:34:12.550 Eilidh Locherty: So why does it? I 421 00:34:12.630 --> 00:34:14.960 Eilidh Locherty: intensify their desire. 422 00:34:15.570 --> 00:34:17.310 Eilidh Locherty: It's because 423 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.000 Eilidh Locherty: none of them know how long they've got. 424 00:34:22.080 --> 00:34:23.230 Eilidh Locherty: so 425 00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:29.820 Eilidh Locherty: why shouldn't they just live like the next day is going to be the last day of their life. 426 00:34:30.469 --> 00:34:39.170 Eilidh Locherty: which is a big part of what you see with them, going to trips egging people's homes, which is 427 00:34:39.429 --> 00:34:41.203 Eilidh Locherty: oddly specific, 428 00:34:42.230 --> 00:34:46.599 Eilidh Locherty: watching movies, reading each other's favorite novels. 429 00:34:47.530 --> 00:34:48.949 Eilidh Locherty: And so 430 00:34:49.139 --> 00:34:56.490 Eilidh Locherty: that is a big part of why Augustus's worry of leaving a meaningful legacy 431 00:34:57.010 --> 00:35:02.219 Eilidh Locherty: is so important, because that is his internal struggle of. 432 00:35:04.010 --> 00:35:07.180 Eilidh Locherty: you know, wanting to be remembered and wanting to be 433 00:35:07.190 --> 00:35:09.039 Eilidh Locherty: important in someone else's life. 434 00:35:10.730 --> 00:35:11.450 Eilidh Locherty: Nope. 435 00:35:12.450 --> 00:35:13.529 Eilidh Locherty: think I went back. 436 00:35:13.950 --> 00:35:22.050 Eilidh Locherty: Okay, okay. So I'm going to take this moment, and I would like you to for a minute either write it down on a piece of paper. Think about it. If you would like 437 00:35:22.210 --> 00:35:24.720 Eilidh Locherty: write it in the chat I would love to know. 438 00:35:24.750 --> 00:35:26.760 Eilidh Locherty: Is there any other 439 00:35:27.260 --> 00:35:29.639 Eilidh Locherty: conflicts that you can think of. 440 00:35:30.190 --> 00:35:34.390 Eilidh Locherty: or even novels that follow the conflicts that I've mentioned. 441 00:35:36.810 --> 00:35:39.199 Eilidh Locherty: Would you like to write them down? On 442 00:35:39.560 --> 00:35:43.969 Eilidh Locherty: what kinds of conflicts that you've seen in novels, be it your own 443 00:35:44.120 --> 00:35:47.239 Eilidh Locherty: or in popular novels, that you've read 444 00:35:58.630 --> 00:36:00.869 Eilidh Locherty: month versus date. 445 00:36:06.580 --> 00:36:09.810 Eilidh Locherty: Yes, snow versus the world. 446 00:36:15.060 --> 00:36:18.109 Eilidh Locherty: It depends on the level of 447 00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:22.839 Eilidh Locherty: mun versus self you're talking about, because 448 00:36:23.930 --> 00:36:26.880 Eilidh Locherty: when you're talking about man versus self. 449 00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:32.899 Eilidh Locherty: In a way you could say that it's man versus yourself. None versus man. 450 00:36:33.190 --> 00:36:42.080 Eilidh Locherty: but it's but it depends on to what extent you're talking about. I'll go more into this at the end. 451 00:36:42.824 --> 00:36:48.520 Eilidh Locherty: Mine versus nature. The Martian mine versus society, Fahrenheit. 4, 5, 1 452 00:36:48.730 --> 00:36:50.850 Eilidh Locherty: Ed rising, and others in this use. 453 00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:52.500 Eilidh Locherty: What 454 00:36:52.950 --> 00:36:57.097 Eilidh Locherty: is that referring to in terms of 455 00:36:58.780 --> 00:37:00.290 Eilidh Locherty: conflict that you've seen 456 00:37:01.030 --> 00:37:02.700 Eilidh Locherty: split personality. 457 00:37:03.780 --> 00:37:06.449 Eilidh Locherty: man versus man, man versus women. 458 00:37:06.950 --> 00:37:12.559 Eilidh Locherty: Classic conflict that no one's talking about? Yeah, I yeah, I see that one for this man 459 00:37:13.150 --> 00:37:15.420 Eilidh Locherty: Memphis society air 460 00:37:20.040 --> 00:37:21.750 Eilidh Locherty: man versus money. 461 00:37:23.680 --> 00:37:25.830 Eilidh Locherty: Those are really good ones. Oh. 462 00:37:25.910 --> 00:37:27.219 Eilidh Locherty: what kind of come. 463 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:33.440 Eilidh Locherty: man versus man, Nancy farmers, the Sea of trolls. Trilogy. 464 00:37:33.980 --> 00:37:34.820 Eilidh Locherty: Okay. 465 00:37:39.070 --> 00:37:44.890 Eilidh Locherty: man versus aliens. A good one. That's a big one in science fiction and man versus power. 466 00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:49.840 Eilidh Locherty: Okay, dokey. So I'm just going to move on to oh. 467 00:37:49.860 --> 00:37:52.780 Eilidh Locherty: Earth versus moon think disaster movies. 468 00:37:53.370 --> 00:37:54.470 Eilidh Locherty: That's a good one. 469 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:55.700 Eilidh Locherty: I've 470 00:37:56.030 --> 00:38:06.000 Eilidh Locherty: find disaster movies to be intriguing, especially when it comes to Earth versus man. And talking about the level of. 471 00:38:06.570 --> 00:38:09.349 Eilidh Locherty: you know, disaster that's going on. 472 00:38:12.520 --> 00:38:16.329 Eilidh Locherty: also man versus man in the 3 body problem. 473 00:38:21.070 --> 00:38:22.160 Eilidh Locherty: Yes. 474 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.649 Eilidh Locherty: okay, I'm just gonna keep that oops. 475 00:38:27.580 --> 00:38:29.690 Eilidh Locherty: Partly. I've just decided to 476 00:38:30.470 --> 00:38:39.989 Eilidh Locherty: show you guys some of my the Powerpoint ahead of time. So so the kinds of tension I'd like to talk about are 477 00:38:40.040 --> 00:38:54.260 Eilidh Locherty: just how there's quite a lot. So there's unspoken feelings, impending danger secrets waiting to be revealed, moral dilemmas, fear of discovery, and chase scenes. Now there's a lot more tension that I could discuss. 478 00:38:55.110 --> 00:38:57.359 Eilidh Locherty: but these are just a select few. 479 00:39:00.120 --> 00:39:13.889 Eilidh Locherty: so as some of you might have seen already, because I spoiled myself. Is that secrets wanting to be waiting to be revealed? I guess, in a way you could say it was wanting to be revealed as well, because it was just 480 00:39:13.930 --> 00:39:17.619 Eilidh Locherty: boiling over is the secret patient. 481 00:39:18.350 --> 00:39:21.820 Eilidh Locherty: So this is a novel that 482 00:39:21.890 --> 00:39:22.900 Eilidh Locherty: is. 483 00:39:23.120 --> 00:39:28.799 Eilidh Locherty: I've read once, and I can't get myself to read it again because 484 00:39:29.050 --> 00:39:30.359 Eilidh Locherty: I was too shocked. 485 00:39:31.510 --> 00:39:35.790 Eilidh Locherty: Has anyone has anyone read it? I don't want to spoil it, because it's just such a good. 486 00:39:36.010 --> 00:39:40.380 Eilidh Locherty: It's just such a good novel that I feel like if I spoil it. 487 00:39:40.650 --> 00:39:43.210 Eilidh Locherty: I probably wouldn't forgive myself. 488 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:46.060 Eilidh Locherty: Haven't read it. 489 00:39:46.160 --> 00:39:53.350 Eilidh Locherty: Okay, I'll be vague then, because it is a good novel, and I really don't want to spoil too much. 490 00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:57.939 Eilidh Locherty: Okay. So 491 00:39:58.870 --> 00:40:04.919 Eilidh Locherty: when it comes to secrets wanting to be revealed in terms of 492 00:40:05.770 --> 00:40:06.910 Eilidh Locherty: tension. 493 00:40:07.750 --> 00:40:10.700 Eilidh Locherty: There's a lot of ways that you can do it. 494 00:40:11.740 --> 00:40:12.860 Eilidh Locherty: So 495 00:40:14.570 --> 00:40:17.709 Eilidh Locherty: there's loads of secrets that people can hold. 496 00:40:17.850 --> 00:40:21.870 Eilidh Locherty: For example, Gong girl is another really good example of this. 497 00:40:22.010 --> 00:40:23.540 Eilidh Locherty: So Alicia 498 00:40:24.530 --> 00:40:27.350 Eilidh Locherty: is silent a lot of the time in this novel. 499 00:40:27.610 --> 00:40:30.670 Eilidh Locherty: and it hides a major secret. So it 500 00:40:30.710 --> 00:40:36.969 Eilidh Locherty: revolves around the refusal to speak after the murder of her husband. 501 00:40:37.180 --> 00:40:40.119 Eilidh Locherty: which is a big part of 502 00:40:40.200 --> 00:40:42.679 Eilidh Locherty: you know. Why is she staying quiet. 503 00:40:42.980 --> 00:40:48.080 Eilidh Locherty: you know. Why is she just sitting there? Why is she 504 00:40:48.260 --> 00:40:52.599 Eilidh Locherty: just not being receptive to the therapist? 505 00:40:54.050 --> 00:40:58.070 Eilidh Locherty: Now Alicia has a diary that Theo discovers. 506 00:40:58.390 --> 00:41:00.650 Eilidh Locherty: and it reveals a 507 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:05.589 Eilidh Locherty: bitter, too, regarding her life regarding this murder. 508 00:41:06.070 --> 00:41:07.979 Eilidh Locherty: But it doesn't give the whole picture 509 00:41:08.310 --> 00:41:11.780 Eilidh Locherty: the reason why this is such a big 510 00:41:12.790 --> 00:41:13.960 Eilidh Locherty: part of 511 00:41:14.040 --> 00:41:18.879 Eilidh Locherty: the story, and how it builds. This tension is the level of. 512 00:41:19.900 --> 00:41:24.320 Eilidh Locherty: you know. There's hidden truths in there. There's stuff that she's written. 513 00:41:24.530 --> 00:41:35.390 Eilidh Locherty: and there's a lot of stuff that you know. Is it going to be true? Because just because you write it in a not in a diary doesn't mean that it's 100% true. 514 00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.499 Eilidh Locherty: a good reason on why you can 515 00:41:39.060 --> 00:41:40.520 Eilidh Locherty: interrupt and 516 00:41:40.590 --> 00:41:44.289 Eilidh Locherty: bring that into a novel if you wanted to, is 517 00:41:44.450 --> 00:41:49.990 Eilidh Locherty: because you're able to just give little snippets here and there 518 00:41:50.390 --> 00:41:54.499 Eilidh Locherty: and give things that you want to give away. 519 00:41:54.610 --> 00:41:59.519 Eilidh Locherty: especially, you know, be a unreliable narrator, or just. 520 00:41:59.810 --> 00:42:00.640 Eilidh Locherty: you know. 521 00:42:00.870 --> 00:42:11.329 Eilidh Locherty: a unique way of doing things. Now Theo's investigation is rather slow when it comes to uncovering secrets, and as she digs deeper 522 00:42:12.120 --> 00:42:16.210 Eilidh Locherty: and it just grows because of the level of 523 00:42:17.030 --> 00:42:19.630 Eilidh Locherty: things that have been shared. 524 00:42:20.070 --> 00:42:26.129 Eilidh Locherty: and it really is conflicting in terms of what he knows to be true and things that he's found out. 525 00:42:26.190 --> 00:42:30.270 Eilidh Locherty: which means that he's essentially having to dig up 526 00:42:30.290 --> 00:42:33.669 Eilidh Locherty: and figure out is something actually happening. 527 00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:35.749 Eilidh Locherty: or is it not? 528 00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.260 Eilidh Locherty: What is the truth, and what is a lie? 529 00:42:39.740 --> 00:42:44.010 Eilidh Locherty: Now another part of that is the dual mystery structure. 530 00:42:44.300 --> 00:42:48.390 Eilidh Locherty: So the novel operates with 2 levels of secret, say. 531 00:42:49.060 --> 00:42:58.180 Eilidh Locherty: so, Alicia, Silence and Theo and his personal life, which is why it's a good level of dual narration. 532 00:42:59.660 --> 00:43:00.730 Eilidh Locherty: No. 533 00:43:01.290 --> 00:43:07.030 Eilidh Locherty: there was a lot of kind of oh, this is interesting to oh. 534 00:43:07.250 --> 00:43:10.180 Eilidh Locherty: are we sure about that? Is that actually happening. 535 00:43:10.270 --> 00:43:14.040 Eilidh Locherty: and it continues to do this piece by piece. 536 00:43:14.080 --> 00:43:17.970 Eilidh Locherty: up until the final scenes, until the final twist 537 00:43:18.330 --> 00:43:22.270 Eilidh Locherty: that reveals the major secret 538 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:23.890 Eilidh Locherty: that I'm not going to mention. 539 00:43:24.560 --> 00:43:30.310 Eilidh Locherty: and it reveals why Alicia killed her husband. 540 00:43:30.330 --> 00:43:34.249 Eilidh Locherty: and why Theo is personally involved. 541 00:43:34.890 --> 00:43:35.890 Eilidh Locherty: Now. 542 00:43:36.050 --> 00:43:40.350 Eilidh Locherty: a big part of the novel is the fact that this revelation was delayed. 543 00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:46.939 Eilidh Locherty: which is a key. A single key to tension is pacing. 544 00:43:48.260 --> 00:43:48.950 Eilidh Locherty: Oh. 545 00:43:54.584 --> 00:44:00.789 Eilidh Locherty: pacing is a massive part of that. See? Gone, girls here? So she is fear of discovery 546 00:44:00.890 --> 00:44:03.180 Eilidh Locherty: now. She also had. 547 00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:13.420 Eilidh Locherty: you know, a secret wing to reveal itself. But a big part of fear of discovery is the fact that in this novel Amy. 548 00:44:13.780 --> 00:44:20.680 Eilidh Locherty: you know, constructed this lie, that she was, you know, kidnapped and sexually assaulted. 549 00:44:21.250 --> 00:44:29.130 Eilidh Locherty: which is a big part of this novel of the fact that on the anniversary she disappeared, and she made this up. 550 00:44:29.870 --> 00:44:30.920 Eilidh Locherty: Now 551 00:44:31.860 --> 00:44:34.350 Eilidh Locherty: in this tension she's 552 00:44:34.410 --> 00:44:36.760 Eilidh Locherty: scared to be exposed. 553 00:44:36.790 --> 00:44:42.499 Eilidh Locherty: Because what if Nick finds out. You know what's gonna happen? You know? 554 00:44:42.620 --> 00:44:45.590 Eilidh Locherty: What if the police? Because the police are really clever? 555 00:44:45.850 --> 00:45:01.570 Eilidh Locherty: What if they uncover the inconsistencies in her story? And especially, you know, the CCTV. Any other things that they could find cause, even though he planned this live months ahead of time with the level of 556 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.160 Eilidh Locherty: you know things here and there. 557 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:14.049 Eilidh Locherty: It just talks more about the level of lie that she built in. 558 00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:22.890 Eilidh Locherty: Now there's a lot of pressure and a lot of manipulation on her, because she's having to manipulate this 559 00:45:23.180 --> 00:45:24.420 Eilidh Locherty: evidence 560 00:45:24.830 --> 00:45:31.779 Eilidh Locherty: and also maintain the lie and keep on top of it. Always keep one step ahead. 561 00:45:32.100 --> 00:45:36.800 Eilidh Locherty: which is a big part of why this tension is rather scary. 562 00:45:37.570 --> 00:45:42.829 Eilidh Locherty: Now room is another novel which is impending danger. 563 00:45:42.970 --> 00:45:50.250 Eilidh Locherty: Now, limited resources and isolation is a big part of this novel because of the confines of the space. 564 00:45:51.100 --> 00:45:55.219 Eilidh Locherty: There's a lot of unpredictability because of the level 565 00:45:55.570 --> 00:45:59.840 Eilidh Locherty: of how unpredictable Nick is. And this 566 00:45:59.960 --> 00:46:01.890 Eilidh Locherty: cariness that is. 567 00:46:02.090 --> 00:46:05.390 Eilidh Locherty: She's in this room, and he 568 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.180 Eilidh Locherty: has so much 569 00:46:07.560 --> 00:46:09.190 Eilidh Locherty: power over her. 570 00:46:09.740 --> 00:46:17.229 Eilidh Locherty: which is why it's scary, because if she gets found to be wanting to leave to be planning to leave. 571 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:21.580 Eilidh Locherty: It builds a lot of terrifying kind of pressure on her. 572 00:46:23.020 --> 00:46:26.740 Eilidh Locherty: Now I would love to hear what you think in terms of 573 00:46:26.820 --> 00:46:31.980 Eilidh Locherty: the types of tension that you've seen in novels, and any books that you can recall. 574 00:46:32.490 --> 00:46:37.059 Eilidh Locherty: So if you would like to add any in the comment section. Well. 575 00:46:37.090 --> 00:46:38.459 Eilidh Locherty: the chat box! 576 00:46:45.640 --> 00:46:48.970 Eilidh Locherty: Yes, and suspense is another part of tension. 577 00:46:49.520 --> 00:46:52.159 Eilidh Locherty: It kind of goes hand in hand. 578 00:46:54.217 --> 00:46:55.980 Eilidh Locherty: Fear of discovery. 579 00:46:59.090 --> 00:47:06.069 Eilidh Locherty: Oh, no, it doesn't have to be novel. I'm just giving it an example. As it can be a novel. It could be a TV show. It could be a game 580 00:47:06.150 --> 00:47:09.379 Eilidh Locherty: race against time to stop a killer. That is another one. 581 00:47:11.290 --> 00:47:14.090 Eilidh Locherty: red rising also fear of discovery. Yes. 582 00:47:16.110 --> 00:47:17.640 Eilidh Locherty: Endgame. 583 00:47:17.860 --> 00:47:19.220 Eilidh Locherty: Oh, enders game. 584 00:47:28.570 --> 00:47:29.270 Eilidh Locherty: Yep. 585 00:47:29.670 --> 00:47:31.440 Eilidh Locherty: Okido, okay. So 586 00:47:32.010 --> 00:47:39.279 Eilidh Locherty: oh, you recently enjoyed the Expanse book series. Great character attention. I'm gonna have to add that on to my. 587 00:47:39.720 --> 00:47:44.420 Eilidh Locherty: I do like supernatural. I'm gonna have to add that onto my reading list. 588 00:47:44.630 --> 00:47:49.640 Eilidh Locherty: Okey Dokey. So a big part of writing is. 589 00:47:49.940 --> 00:48:00.800 Eilidh Locherty: I know I know some people hate it, but you need to plan a few things out in advance. So what kind of tension and conflict do you want your story to have? 590 00:48:01.850 --> 00:48:05.910 Eilidh Locherty: You need to decide what your character wants? Then put an obstacle in their way. 591 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:11.160 Eilidh Locherty: be it realistic, unrealistic. Whatever fits into your story. 592 00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:21.010 Eilidh Locherty: So be it. You know a character wants to go to this prestigious school, but say their grades are in their way. That's another good way of doing it. 593 00:48:21.310 --> 00:48:26.230 Eilidh Locherty: So you need to keep this conflict going throughout the middle of the story. 594 00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.880 Eilidh Locherty: The reason you do this is because of 595 00:48:30.090 --> 00:48:34.289 Eilidh Locherty: the momentum, and you want to make sure that it's not too slow. 596 00:48:34.450 --> 00:48:38.179 Eilidh Locherty: The issue that I see is sometimes people 597 00:48:39.170 --> 00:48:40.960 Eilidh Locherty: keep conflict. 598 00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:43.959 Eilidh Locherty: and it just doesn't 599 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:49.089 Eilidh Locherty: go through the entirety of the novel. It'll be right at the beginning or right at the end. 600 00:48:49.740 --> 00:48:57.409 Eilidh Locherty: Now, using relationships is a bag of holding. If you do, if you play D and D, that's a nice little 601 00:48:58.100 --> 00:49:16.090 Eilidh Locherty: little reference in there. Relationships are bag of holding worth of conflict. You can have good relationships. So good conflict, bad conflict regarding relationships, and essentially having little fights and little tensions are great ways of doing this 602 00:49:20.900 --> 00:49:21.960 Eilidh Locherty: so 603 00:49:22.830 --> 00:49:24.549 Eilidh Locherty: conflict creates tension 604 00:49:24.730 --> 00:49:28.719 Eilidh Locherty: which leads to the suspense as mentioned in the group chat. 605 00:49:29.250 --> 00:49:32.989 Eilidh Locherty: And it's what keeps readers hooked throughout, and 606 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:36.640 Eilidh Locherty: we want people to be reading at 2 Am. I know I do. 607 00:49:36.900 --> 00:49:39.800 Eilidh Locherty: And so a big part of that is 608 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:45.099 Eilidh Locherty: without tension. There's no investment in the emotions. 609 00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:48.250 Eilidh Locherty: And so why would people want to read on? 610 00:49:52.530 --> 00:49:56.340 Eilidh Locherty: So pacing is a big part of 611 00:49:57.560 --> 00:50:00.930 Eilidh Locherty: writing and editing for conflict. 612 00:50:01.150 --> 00:50:04.690 Eilidh Locherty: So you want to make sure that pacing is 613 00:50:05.210 --> 00:50:13.700 Eilidh Locherty: something that you focus on in the editing and the writing of your novel. So if you want something to be more. 614 00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:14.740 Eilidh Locherty: you know. 615 00:50:14.850 --> 00:50:19.559 Eilidh Locherty: slower, you want to make sure there's some longer sentences, some 616 00:50:19.850 --> 00:50:23.550 Eilidh Locherty: big things there, but if you want it to be kind of 617 00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:30.229 Eilidh Locherty: pretty tense and terrifying, snappy sentences, snappy, snappy, snappy. 618 00:50:30.490 --> 00:50:33.449 Eilidh Locherty: And so you you want to leave readers. 619 00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:34.850 Eilidh Locherty: Curious. 620 00:50:35.350 --> 00:50:48.499 Eilidh Locherty: A little bit of curiosity may kill the cat, and maybe your reader, if you leave them on for too long. But that's okay, because as long as you actually give them something to go on to in the next foot of the page, that's the main thing. 621 00:50:49.360 --> 00:51:02.449 Eilidh Locherty: So you want to make use of that internal and external conflict, and for your characters make it personal. Make it hurt. You want to hurt your characters so much 622 00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:07.370 Eilidh Locherty: that they don't want to see the life taken, and then make it better for them 623 00:51:07.970 --> 00:51:09.679 Eilidh Locherty: if you want. Only if you want. 624 00:51:10.750 --> 00:51:22.330 Eilidh Locherty: and another good way of doing that is, having that ticking time bomb and the use of sentences, senses foreshadowing and earning that win or loss. 625 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:29.970 Eilidh Locherty: So, being mindful of the time. I'll give you this, Powerpoint, and we can. 626 00:51:30.750 --> 00:51:37.740 Eilidh Locherty: Yes, yes, I am rather sadistic with my novels as well. So how can we make it realistic 627 00:51:38.730 --> 00:51:40.800 Eilidh Locherty: now you want to make sure that 628 00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:51.430 Eilidh Locherty: it is relatable with your sticks. You want to make it personal for the character, so make it affect the character, the love life or yourself. 629 00:51:51.670 --> 00:51:56.190 Eilidh Locherty: and you want to make sure that this is painful. Yes, kill your darlings. 630 00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:01.289 Eilidh Locherty: You want to trigger the emotions in your characters. 631 00:52:01.690 --> 00:52:03.940 Eilidh Locherty: so you want to link stakes 632 00:52:04.640 --> 00:52:08.730 Eilidh Locherty: to the fears, hopes, guilts, motivations. 633 00:52:09.130 --> 00:52:15.549 Eilidh Locherty: and you need to make sure that goals are always clear, regardless of what you're writing. 634 00:52:16.020 --> 00:52:17.460 Eilidh Locherty: So be it. 635 00:52:19.210 --> 00:52:22.380 Eilidh Locherty: keeping things simple, relatable. 636 00:52:23.180 --> 00:52:28.580 Eilidh Locherty: depending on what your character is. Of course, if it's a fantasy, you don't want to make things 637 00:52:28.990 --> 00:52:30.899 Eilidh Locherty: too simple 638 00:52:31.040 --> 00:52:39.359 Eilidh Locherty: or too difficult, because at the end of the day you want to make sure that things actually make sense for that character. 639 00:52:39.470 --> 00:52:42.289 Eilidh Locherty: So you need to make sure that things 640 00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:44.519 Eilidh Locherty: are urgent. 641 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.450 Eilidh Locherty: and you want to tie things to the growth. 642 00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:55.999 Eilidh Locherty: the relatability of that, their daily life, their specific daily life, and emphasize the relationships that they have 643 00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:01.729 Eilidh Locherty: so flaws is another big one, so highlighting their weaknesses. 644 00:53:01.740 --> 00:53:03.559 Eilidh Locherty: causing mistakes. 645 00:53:03.710 --> 00:53:06.080 Eilidh Locherty: A big part of that is 646 00:53:06.160 --> 00:53:10.960 Eilidh Locherty: what makes them human or unhuman. If they're, you know. 647 00:53:11.090 --> 00:53:14.250 Eilidh Locherty: not human, but what makes them who they are. 648 00:53:14.650 --> 00:53:26.150 Eilidh Locherty: You can link that with internal battles escalating conflict in the way of you know what are the challenges they have? Do they have a fight? Do they have to, you know. 649 00:53:26.860 --> 00:53:29.710 Eilidh Locherty: do something that is scary for them. 650 00:53:30.870 --> 00:53:33.960 Eilidh Locherty: And you want to build the frustration. 651 00:53:34.610 --> 00:53:40.529 Eilidh Locherty: not only for the author or not author, the reader, but also for the characters itself. 652 00:53:41.330 --> 00:53:42.460 Eilidh Locherty: Now 653 00:53:42.940 --> 00:53:48.680 Eilidh Locherty: the character motivations is another important thing, so you need to 654 00:53:48.910 --> 00:54:00.439 Eilidh Locherty: make them desire to have specific change, be it good or bad, depending on how they are on that scale, and you have to make sure that they have some level of values. 655 00:54:00.660 --> 00:54:09.319 Eilidh Locherty: Now, be it positive values negative values. That doesn't matter. You just want to make sure that they have values that they care for. 656 00:54:09.620 --> 00:54:11.849 Eilidh Locherty: and add that pressure that 657 00:54:12.430 --> 00:54:15.130 Eilidh Locherty: you know there's a way that you can do it. Where 658 00:54:15.590 --> 00:54:19.839 Eilidh Locherty: are there any expectations in the world that you're in right now. 659 00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:24.349 Eilidh Locherty: And how can you use that to mess with your characters? 660 00:54:29.550 --> 00:54:31.220 Eilidh Locherty: What do you think? 661 00:54:34.100 --> 00:54:36.250 Eilidh Locherty: Thank you, Monica. Thanks for that. 662 00:54:37.590 --> 00:54:39.589 Eilidh Locherty: So relatable. 6. 663 00:54:40.660 --> 00:54:42.849 Eilidh Locherty: You have to make it personal. 664 00:54:42.980 --> 00:54:44.060 Eilidh Locherty: as it says. 665 00:54:44.130 --> 00:54:45.990 Eilidh Locherty: Oh, wait, no, we've just went. 666 00:54:46.110 --> 00:54:47.780 Eilidh Locherty: You're distracting me, Monica. 667 00:54:48.090 --> 00:54:50.590 Eilidh Locherty: Sorry this is a friend. 668 00:54:50.610 --> 00:54:56.360 Eilidh Locherty: so I know this person, and she knows that by saying that it will hype me up a little bit more. 669 00:54:56.852 --> 00:55:02.339 Eilidh Locherty: So there has to be natural consequences, as I says, so align with choices. 670 00:55:02.350 --> 00:55:05.580 Eilidh Locherty: making consequences directly 671 00:55:06.170 --> 00:55:07.640 Eilidh Locherty: resulting 672 00:55:08.290 --> 00:55:12.119 Eilidh Locherty: from characters, actions, or decisions is a big part of that. 673 00:55:12.140 --> 00:55:15.229 Eilidh Locherty: So, for example, if we're 674 00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:21.680 Eilidh Locherty: an example, someone slaps them in the face. You're not going to kill them, or I mean you might. But why would you want to. 675 00:55:21.770 --> 00:55:31.830 Eilidh Locherty: or say someone cheated on your homework on their homework. You wouldn't just walk up, and you know, kick them to yeet them across the room. 676 00:55:33.110 --> 00:55:36.409 Eilidh Locherty: I mean you might, but that's not realistic. 677 00:55:36.650 --> 00:55:38.009 Eilidh Locherty: A lot of the time. 678 00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:45.789 Eilidh Locherty: and you want to match those stakes to the consequences and the thing that they had done. 679 00:55:46.460 --> 00:55:52.879 Eilidh Locherty: and some and what a lot of people forget to mention or do is 680 00:55:53.190 --> 00:55:56.890 Eilidh Locherty: have that impact be whatever length 681 00:55:56.910 --> 00:56:04.649 Eilidh Locherty: it needs to be. Some people do it too quickly. Some people do it too long. You need to have that impact. 682 00:56:05.110 --> 00:56:08.689 Eilidh Locherty: And it's okay to have setbacks. It's okay to 683 00:56:08.720 --> 00:56:12.749 Eilidh Locherty: have things go backwards and forwards. Nothing's linear. 684 00:56:13.220 --> 00:56:15.540 Eilidh Locherty: Now, another part of that is 685 00:56:15.550 --> 00:56:19.114 Eilidh Locherty: using salt subal. I can't even talk today. 686 00:56:19.630 --> 00:56:20.740 Eilidh Locherty: be subtle. 687 00:56:21.080 --> 00:56:22.979 Eilidh Locherty: So you have to use subtext. 688 00:56:24.151 --> 00:56:27.940 Eilidh Locherty: You make use of emotions, body language. 689 00:56:28.420 --> 00:56:35.079 Eilidh Locherty: sometimes understating the reactions is another big part of what you want to do, because 690 00:56:35.610 --> 00:56:41.130 Eilidh Locherty: understanding things, some people don't react so boldly all the time. 691 00:56:42.070 --> 00:56:47.109 Eilidh Locherty: and another one is implying threats. So you don't sometimes 692 00:56:47.370 --> 00:56:51.100 Eilidh Locherty: specifically saying I'm going to kick you in the face 693 00:56:51.160 --> 00:56:53.200 Eilidh Locherty: isn't the right thing to do. 694 00:56:53.450 --> 00:56:57.980 Eilidh Locherty: But if you say you know. Do that one more time, I dare you. 695 00:56:58.820 --> 00:57:01.310 Eilidh Locherty: That implies something's going to happen. 696 00:57:01.620 --> 00:57:06.370 Eilidh Locherty: Now, another part of this. You don't want the resolution to be perfect. 697 00:57:06.810 --> 00:57:10.519 Eilidh Locherty: It's okay to leave some some loose ends 698 00:57:11.680 --> 00:57:21.909 Eilidh Locherty: in the long run. When it comes to, you know, fights. It's okay, for example, for a fight to be unresolved because nothing's perfect, nothing's linear. 699 00:57:24.060 --> 00:57:26.920 Eilidh Locherty: So how do we do that with dialogue? 700 00:57:27.050 --> 00:57:31.090 Eilidh Locherty: So less is more in the field of dialogue. 701 00:57:31.330 --> 00:57:41.419 Eilidh Locherty: So when it comes to that. You can use short clipped responses because that can signal frustration. Talking about pauses and silences 702 00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:44.510 Eilidh Locherty: in moderation is also okay. 703 00:57:44.720 --> 00:57:48.050 Eilidh Locherty: Unanswered questions is another. Oh. 704 00:57:49.150 --> 00:57:52.639 Eilidh Locherty: yes, I will be wrapping things up. 705 00:57:53.235 --> 00:57:59.959 Eilidh Locherty: So talking about, that is another important element, you know, using one sided conversations because that is 706 00:58:00.410 --> 00:58:04.130 Eilidh Locherty: with delayed reactions. And 707 00:58:04.820 --> 00:58:07.140 Eilidh Locherty: that is another big part of 708 00:58:08.750 --> 00:58:09.569 Eilidh Locherty: you know. 709 00:58:09.980 --> 00:58:11.840 Eilidh Locherty: arguments especially. 710 00:58:12.090 --> 00:58:13.810 Eilidh Locherty: and it could be a power struggle. 711 00:58:17.980 --> 00:58:20.089 Eilidh Locherty: So a big part of the. 712 00:58:20.090 --> 00:58:34.279 Tom Wilde: Haley. I was just gonna sorry, I said, don't don't worry. We can. We can go over the hour. That's absolutely fine. I just wanted to reassure and just say, we don't have to finish on the hour, so don't don't rush. There's some great stuff here, and I don't want you to feel like you've got a rush. 713 00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.869 Eilidh Locherty: I planned it so long, but then I got nervous. 714 00:58:37.870 --> 00:58:38.890 Tom Wilde: Yeah. No. 715 00:58:38.890 --> 00:58:39.260 Eilidh Locherty: I 716 00:58:39.630 --> 00:58:48.220 Tom Wilde: Had those delays at the beginning. So that's fine. But obviously anyone who can't stick around for longer than the hour you'll be able to pick up the replay on the hub. But yeah. 717 00:58:48.220 --> 00:58:51.959 Eilidh Locherty: I also have these slides available for anybody who would like them. 718 00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:57.340 Tom Wilde: And the other thing I was going to say, and and if you're happy to do this is we can 719 00:58:57.530 --> 00:59:05.170 Tom Wilde: provide a spreadsheet of all the questions that we've asked today, and we can answer them and upload those answers to the hub. So if we don't have time. 720 00:59:05.170 --> 00:59:07.419 Eilidh Locherty: Yeah. Good idea. I don't. I'm fine. 721 00:59:07.720 --> 00:59:16.980 Tom Wilde: But it's great, fascinating stuff, and some great questions and great interaction. I'm going to leave you, too. I just wanted to reassure you. Don't worry about overrunning, that's all fine. 722 00:59:17.830 --> 00:59:26.190 Eilidh Locherty: I'm a stickler for not wanting to go overtime, and so I'm getting stressed out, knowing that I've actually went over. 723 00:59:27.413 --> 00:59:28.940 Tom Wilde: It's fine. 724 00:59:30.230 --> 00:59:31.850 Tom Wilde: the content! 725 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:33.250 Tom Wilde: I'll leave it there. 726 00:59:33.390 --> 00:59:37.159 Eilidh Locherty: Thank you so much. Okay, so what is high stress. 727 00:59:38.190 --> 00:59:46.059 Eilidh Locherty: high stress situations is when there's intense pressure filled moments where characters are pushed to the limit. 728 00:59:46.260 --> 00:59:51.760 Eilidh Locherty: So be it emotionally, physically, or mentally. That is how conflict can. 729 00:59:53.160 --> 00:59:56.900 Eilidh Locherty: Yes, before your eyes. Where 730 00:59:56.950 --> 00:59:58.360 Eilidh Locherty: pension. 731 00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:02.399 Eilidh Locherty: you know, can actually drive the plot even further. 732 01:00:02.420 --> 01:00:05.029 Eilidh Locherty: So it escalates the tension 733 01:00:05.230 --> 01:00:07.970 Eilidh Locherty: it can reveal how 734 01:00:08.080 --> 01:00:09.730 Eilidh Locherty: a character is. 735 01:00:09.780 --> 01:00:22.800 Eilidh Locherty: you know, really is, maybe they're manipulating people, and they don't react under stress. See, I don't react well under stress in certain situations. But at the same time 736 01:00:22.900 --> 01:00:25.720 Eilidh Locherty: it can actually push people to be more confident. 737 01:00:26.260 --> 01:00:28.670 Eilidh Locherty: I get more confident when under pressure. 738 01:00:28.890 --> 01:00:31.460 Eilidh Locherty: But I also get nervous right at the beginning. 739 01:00:32.450 --> 01:00:37.250 Eilidh Locherty: Another good example is how some people, when going under pressure, might cry. 740 01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:42.319 Eilidh Locherty: they might get really flustered. They might end up 741 01:00:42.390 --> 01:00:45.169 Eilidh Locherty: panicking. They might forget certain things. 742 01:00:45.500 --> 01:00:46.590 Eilidh Locherty: They might. 743 01:00:47.040 --> 01:00:47.910 Eilidh Locherty: you know. 744 01:00:48.250 --> 01:00:49.819 Eilidh Locherty: be okay. 745 01:00:50.040 --> 01:00:52.520 Eilidh Locherty: and they might mask that. 746 01:00:52.570 --> 01:00:56.339 Eilidh Locherty: But it depends on how high this emotion can be. 747 01:00:58.351 --> 01:01:00.959 Eilidh Locherty: Now messy choices can lead 748 01:01:01.130 --> 01:01:02.519 Eilidh Locherty: to bigger. 749 01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:04.330 Eilidh Locherty: bigger problems. 750 01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:07.030 Eilidh Locherty: And that's why that level of 751 01:01:07.160 --> 01:01:09.990 Eilidh Locherty: having that element of 752 01:01:10.740 --> 01:01:12.980 Eilidh Locherty: stakes be important. 753 01:01:13.450 --> 01:01:18.150 Eilidh Locherty: Yes, they might drop a lot of F bombs, and I'm trying not to do that myself. 754 01:01:20.820 --> 01:01:23.220 Eilidh Locherty: so it raises the stakes. 755 01:01:23.610 --> 01:01:24.710 Eilidh Locherty: and 756 01:01:24.850 --> 01:01:27.970 Eilidh Locherty: bigger consequences are 757 01:01:28.160 --> 01:01:29.215 Eilidh Locherty: very. 758 01:01:30.390 --> 01:01:32.480 Eilidh Locherty: It's a difficult one to say. 759 01:01:32.540 --> 01:01:35.800 Eilidh Locherty: because when it comes to 760 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.319 Eilidh Locherty: problems it depends on the character and what they do. 761 01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:55.410 Eilidh Locherty: and it can boost internal conflict and forces that confrontation as well as unpredictable air, stress infection, high stakes, emotional explosions, making for a wild engagement story. 762 01:01:55.670 --> 01:01:57.769 Eilidh Locherty: and also chaos. 763 01:01:57.870 --> 01:01:58.890 Eilidh Locherty: Because 764 01:01:59.020 --> 01:02:00.530 Eilidh Locherty: who doesn't like chaos. 765 01:02:01.650 --> 01:02:02.500 Eilidh Locherty: No. 766 01:02:02.710 --> 01:02:14.559 Eilidh Locherty: there's a lot of different kinds of stress. So there's life or death betrayal loved ones, public humiliation, financial ruin, and impending doom. That type of thing. 767 01:02:17.230 --> 01:02:19.430 Eilidh Locherty: Divergent is one of them. So 768 01:02:19.740 --> 01:02:23.050 Eilidh Locherty: with that, there's a deadly initiation 769 01:02:23.390 --> 01:02:26.100 Eilidh Locherty: where that way they're, you know. 770 01:02:26.270 --> 01:02:31.890 Eilidh Locherty: facing life-threatening, physical and psychological tests throughout the initiation. 771 01:02:31.900 --> 01:02:33.140 Eilidh Locherty: Now there's that 772 01:02:33.210 --> 01:02:35.180 Eilidh Locherty: fear element of 773 01:02:36.040 --> 01:02:41.810 Eilidh Locherty: Oh, my God! I might become factionless. I do not know what to do. 774 01:02:42.100 --> 01:02:43.180 Eilidh Locherty: because 775 01:02:43.250 --> 01:02:50.670 Eilidh Locherty: I don't. I'm not. I'm not. You know of negation. I am not. Don't list. I am divergent. 776 01:02:52.150 --> 01:02:55.510 Eilidh Locherty: And so another element of that is 777 01:02:55.620 --> 01:02:56.630 Eilidh Locherty: the 778 01:02:57.080 --> 01:02:58.919 Eilidh Locherty: the high stakes 779 01:02:59.250 --> 01:03:03.450 Eilidh Locherty: makes each challenge feel more dangerous and more 780 01:03:03.820 --> 01:03:04.900 Eilidh Locherty: scary. 781 01:03:06.050 --> 01:03:10.499 Eilidh Locherty: Now, physical combat is another part of that, because there's a lot of fights. 782 01:03:10.770 --> 01:03:15.990 Eilidh Locherty: And in this Dystopian society, which is a subgenre of sci-fi 783 01:03:16.618 --> 01:03:20.390 Eilidh Locherty: it is controlling. And of course, with 784 01:03:21.260 --> 01:03:23.870 Eilidh Locherty: this element of sci-fi. 785 01:03:24.110 --> 01:03:29.950 Eilidh Locherty: there's a whole world where there's a lot of world building, and 786 01:03:30.990 --> 01:03:37.860 Eilidh Locherty: it's very controlling, which is terrifying for everybody, because sometimes you don't know. 787 01:03:38.140 --> 01:03:41.239 Eilidh Locherty: you know, who to trust, especially with the power struggle. 788 01:03:42.070 --> 01:03:43.190 Eilidh Locherty: No. 789 01:03:43.260 --> 01:03:45.129 Eilidh Locherty: there's an impending war 790 01:03:45.613 --> 01:03:48.719 Eilidh Locherty: especially when it comes to, you know. 791 01:03:49.460 --> 01:03:54.280 Eilidh Locherty: each faction's different. And then, you know, there's divergent people hiding. 792 01:03:54.410 --> 01:03:58.889 Eilidh Locherty: and that's a big, scary thing for people in 793 01:03:59.820 --> 01:04:07.359 Eilidh Locherty: that world who are divergent because they could die, or they could be kidnapped, depending on what use they were. 794 01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:18.279 Eilidh Locherty: Another part of that is. Now this is another novel that I was wanting to talk about earlier 795 01:04:18.300 --> 01:04:25.329 Eilidh Locherty: when it came to the conflict was because the Time Traveller's Wife is another great example of man versus time. 796 01:04:25.350 --> 01:04:27.270 Eilidh Locherty: because time traveler's wife. 797 01:04:27.390 --> 01:04:28.260 Eilidh Locherty: Now 798 01:04:28.600 --> 01:04:38.000 Eilidh Locherty: the unpredictable nature of Henry, was really uncontrollable, and this was stressful for Claire because of the level of 799 01:04:38.340 --> 01:04:41.560 Eilidh Locherty: you know, he was gone 1 min and back the next. 800 01:04:42.220 --> 01:04:46.839 Eilidh Locherty: and you know he's going back to times where he he was really young. 801 01:04:47.120 --> 01:04:50.230 Eilidh Locherty: to times where she was really old. 802 01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:54.900 Eilidh Locherty: to times where, you know, they were on present day, which was really stressful for them. 803 01:04:55.660 --> 01:05:00.460 Eilidh Locherty: Now that caused a lot of emotional strain because she was stressed out 804 01:05:00.770 --> 01:05:05.999 Eilidh Locherty: being left behind, not knowing when they were going to go. When they were going to come back. 805 01:05:06.040 --> 01:05:09.159 Eilidh Locherty: It was gonna be in random times. 806 01:05:09.680 --> 01:05:14.330 Eilidh Locherty: and that unpredictability was terrifying. Because 807 01:05:14.780 --> 01:05:21.399 Eilidh Locherty: could you imagine them coming back, you know, at the wedding? And there's a way to. He's a way to be like, however old. 808 01:05:21.830 --> 01:05:23.110 Eilidh Locherty: or, you know. 809 01:05:23.660 --> 01:05:28.710 Eilidh Locherty: insert thing here that I'm probably not going to be allowed to mention here. 810 01:05:30.334 --> 01:05:34.120 Eilidh Locherty: But there's a lot of foreshadowing with the death because of 811 01:05:34.510 --> 01:05:40.119 Eilidh Locherty: the time. Travelling causes him to have that threat loomed regarding his death. 812 01:05:40.200 --> 01:05:43.159 Eilidh Locherty: That is a very terrifying element of 813 01:05:44.150 --> 01:05:45.180 Eilidh Locherty: his 814 01:05:45.630 --> 01:05:46.880 Eilidh Locherty: story. 815 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:48.750 Eilidh Locherty: because of 816 01:05:48.940 --> 01:05:53.679 Eilidh Locherty: the worry of he's going to die eventually. When's that going to be? And why 817 01:05:55.120 --> 01:06:02.289 Eilidh Locherty: now, another novel that I really enjoy? Now, this is one of my favorite series actually is the charmee series. 818 01:06:02.350 --> 01:06:10.410 Eilidh Locherty: and the reason I love it so much is because of the level of high stress situation, because of the kept in captivity and 819 01:06:10.570 --> 01:06:15.479 Eilidh Locherty: isolation that Juliet witnesses and experiences 820 01:06:15.580 --> 01:06:23.780 Eilidh Locherty: because of the fact that because of her powers she's been locked up, and that is terrifying for her because of the 821 01:06:24.210 --> 01:06:26.570 Eilidh Locherty: internal struggle. That is 822 01:06:26.780 --> 01:06:29.770 Eilidh Locherty: that she doesn't know when she's going to get out. 823 01:06:30.150 --> 01:06:33.610 Eilidh Locherty: Now, another big part of that is the fact that 824 01:06:33.770 --> 01:06:36.679 Eilidh Locherty: because of the escape attempts. 825 01:06:36.740 --> 01:06:47.570 Eilidh Locherty: It builds that suspense and that fear. We don't know whether or not she's going to make it. We don't know whether or not she's going to be okay, happy, or anything like that, because 826 01:06:48.450 --> 01:06:53.039 Eilidh Locherty: we don't know what's on the other side of the door. 827 01:06:53.470 --> 01:07:02.010 Eilidh Locherty: We don't know who's going to be there, and we don't know whether or not we don't, because of how long she's in captivity. We don't know 828 01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:04.299 Eilidh Locherty: how she's going to be at the end of the day. 829 01:07:04.600 --> 01:07:05.680 Eilidh Locherty: Because 830 01:07:06.260 --> 01:07:08.720 Eilidh Locherty: think of it this way with prison 831 01:07:08.930 --> 01:07:15.299 Eilidh Locherty: and imprisonment, when you're locked up for so long you don't know how long you're going to acclimatize to 832 01:07:15.330 --> 01:07:16.440 Eilidh Locherty: that world 833 01:07:16.660 --> 01:07:21.820 Eilidh Locherty: which is another great element of that high stress and building tension and conflict. 834 01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:27.050 Eilidh Locherty: Because a good element of this is, how are they going to 835 01:07:27.060 --> 01:07:30.249 Eilidh Locherty: live. And how are they going to react 836 01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:35.740 Eilidh Locherty: to being in a world that has changed in the last, however long. 837 01:07:36.100 --> 01:07:43.509 Eilidh Locherty: which is another good element of building this panic fear that tension and that excitement for some. 838 01:07:44.460 --> 01:07:45.690 Eilidh Locherty: So 839 01:07:46.570 --> 01:07:50.370 Eilidh Locherty: the next thing I would like to talk about is 840 01:07:51.210 --> 01:07:54.559 Eilidh Locherty: the do's and don'ts for high stress situations. 841 01:07:54.770 --> 01:08:07.579 Eilidh Locherty: So you want to let people freeze up. That is okay. It's okay for people to freeze up. It's okay for them to have human responses or on human responses. When it comes to 842 01:08:07.810 --> 01:08:11.899 Eilidh Locherty: tension on whatever it may be. Because 843 01:08:12.700 --> 01:08:16.529 Eilidh Locherty: think, everyone has a certain reaction to certain things. 844 01:08:17.109 --> 01:08:22.790 Eilidh Locherty: And it's okay to respond. How that character would respond because 845 01:08:22.810 --> 01:08:28.419 Eilidh Locherty: the big part of realism is, how would it? How would someone react 846 01:08:28.660 --> 01:08:30.249 Eilidh Locherty: as that character? 847 01:08:31.029 --> 01:08:33.650 Eilidh Locherty: And how realistic would it be for them. 848 01:08:33.930 --> 01:08:36.519 Eilidh Locherty: So you want to create that false hope. 849 01:08:36.580 --> 01:08:42.109 Eilidh Locherty: Give them that hope at the end of the tunnel they will get out of this. 850 01:08:42.529 --> 01:08:43.569 Eilidh Locherty: and then. 851 01:08:46.890 --> 01:08:47.660 Eilidh Locherty: no. 852 01:08:47.910 --> 01:08:50.030 Eilidh Locherty: that's not what's happening. Not today. 853 01:08:51.109 --> 01:08:55.290 Eilidh Locherty: And then they'll have to devise this other option 854 01:08:55.410 --> 01:09:00.740 Eilidh Locherty: to get to what they want to do. Now, this works for the big overall tension. 855 01:09:01.010 --> 01:09:08.209 Eilidh Locherty: but also the small ones. So the little conflicts, the little tensions that is in a novel. 856 01:09:08.420 --> 01:09:16.319 Eilidh Locherty: Now you want to blur the line between right and wrong. It's okay to have a morally gray character or say, a 857 01:09:17.380 --> 01:09:26.629 Eilidh Locherty: good character, a, you know, a chaotic good character. Do something evil, because it's okay to blur that line between right and wrong. 858 01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:34.900 Eilidh Locherty: It's okay to have a bad character do something good because it can actually cause confusion for the readers. 859 01:09:35.189 --> 01:09:39.189 Eilidh Locherty: and it will then mean that people are like, Oh, what's next? 860 01:09:39.950 --> 01:09:43.130 Eilidh Locherty: And you want to make use of that character focus 861 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.100 Eilidh Locherty: on the wrong thing. 862 01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:48.629 Eilidh Locherty: It's okay to give them that sensory overload. 863 01:09:49.040 --> 01:09:54.329 Eilidh Locherty: So that way, they're like, Oh, what's going on? And it causes them that level of stress. 864 01:09:54.670 --> 01:09:57.290 Eilidh Locherty: Now, what do we not want to do? 865 01:09:57.320 --> 01:10:01.610 Eilidh Locherty: We don't want to resolve stress too quickly or too slow. 866 01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:06.349 Eilidh Locherty: depending on the conflict depends on how realistic it is for 867 01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:10.980 Eilidh Locherty: people to kind of get over it if you will, or 868 01:10:12.390 --> 01:10:13.610 Eilidh Locherty: getting 869 01:10:14.070 --> 01:10:14.940 Eilidh Locherty: heel. 870 01:10:15.070 --> 01:10:17.049 Eilidh Locherty: it's easier to heal. 871 01:10:17.180 --> 01:10:22.119 Eilidh Locherty: and every character will be different in how the level of healing they'll have. 872 01:10:22.230 --> 01:10:24.600 Eilidh Locherty: For example, someone might 873 01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:26.170 Eilidh Locherty: be okay with. 874 01:10:26.480 --> 01:10:30.259 Eilidh Locherty: you know, someone dying after, say, a month. 875 01:10:30.490 --> 01:10:33.009 Eilidh Locherty: But someone might not after a year. 876 01:10:33.070 --> 01:10:38.840 Eilidh Locherty: And it's okay, because that's what makes that person realistic because each character is different. 877 01:10:39.020 --> 01:10:50.429 Eilidh Locherty: Now, you don't want to make that character perfect. You want to make sure that they've got flaws they've got, you know, little things that make people squirm, and, you know, get annoyed. 878 01:10:51.390 --> 01:10:54.970 Eilidh Locherty: but don't make any everything too easy or hard, either. 879 01:10:55.040 --> 01:10:57.590 Eilidh Locherty: because you don't want things 880 01:10:57.660 --> 01:11:06.459 Eilidh Locherty: to be too easy in in the realm of, you know. A fight. Oh, it's too easy. People might get bored if it's too hard. 881 01:11:07.090 --> 01:11:10.570 Eilidh Locherty: It wouldn't be realistic if they survived. In that instance. 882 01:11:10.710 --> 01:11:12.959 Eilidh Locherty: You don't want to over explain anything. 883 01:11:13.200 --> 01:11:14.470 Eilidh Locherty: because 884 01:11:14.990 --> 01:11:21.609 Eilidh Locherty: the balance of tension and high stress situations is wording it so that way 885 01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:23.380 Eilidh Locherty: you can do it 886 01:11:23.410 --> 01:11:24.679 Eilidh Locherty: in a way 887 01:11:24.870 --> 01:11:25.960 Eilidh Locherty: that 888 01:11:26.010 --> 01:11:28.010 Eilidh Locherty: just smooths over. 889 01:11:28.540 --> 01:11:32.819 Eilidh Locherty: and then they'll understand it without you explaining it too much. 890 01:11:33.820 --> 01:11:37.280 Eilidh Locherty: Now you don't want to ignore the long term effects of 891 01:11:37.400 --> 01:11:40.599 Eilidh Locherty: the stress, as I mentioned before, because. 892 01:11:40.660 --> 01:11:47.820 Eilidh Locherty: realistically, people will say, for example, if they broke their leg they wouldn't be walking on it again without, say, an aid. 893 01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:49.290 Eilidh Locherty: 2 days later 894 01:11:49.440 --> 01:11:57.069 Eilidh Locherty: you want to make sure that the realistic thing is that for whatever world that you're in. You have a realistic effect 895 01:11:57.210 --> 01:11:58.700 Eilidh Locherty: for that thing. 896 01:11:58.910 --> 01:12:05.719 Eilidh Locherty: and don't forget your secondary characters. They will react to certain things that you do 897 01:12:05.730 --> 01:12:07.520 Eilidh Locherty: or say. The protagonist does. 898 01:12:08.530 --> 01:12:14.740 Eilidh Locherty: they will react to things that happen if it will affect them in terms of the stress as well. 899 01:12:14.810 --> 01:12:16.819 Eilidh Locherty: And that is a big part of 900 01:12:18.270 --> 01:12:20.779 Eilidh Locherty: what makes stress really important. 901 01:12:21.090 --> 01:12:21.970 Eilidh Locherty: No 902 01:12:22.410 --> 01:12:23.720 Eilidh Locherty: editing 903 01:12:24.340 --> 01:12:35.850 Eilidh Locherty: what I want to talk about now now, this is the final stretch is fine tuning conflict and tension, and making sure that it's the best you can be before you hand it over to 904 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:42.380 Eilidh Locherty: prowriting aid to help you with self editing, because I am a big user of prowriting aid with fine tuning. 905 01:12:42.620 --> 01:12:48.849 Eilidh Locherty: And then obviously an editor, if that is something that you're going to do in the next stage. 906 01:12:49.040 --> 01:12:50.830 Eilidh Locherty: or say a better, reader. 907 01:12:51.940 --> 01:12:53.060 Eilidh Locherty: No. 908 01:12:53.610 --> 01:12:57.254 Eilidh Locherty: that's little latte. There, that's my little business, Buddy. 909 01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:01.649 Eilidh Locherty: So you don't want to rush into conflict? 910 01:13:02.939 --> 01:13:10.690 Eilidh Locherty: So if we don't know them yet, why do we care? So you want to make sure that you build on 911 01:13:10.790 --> 01:13:12.690 Eilidh Locherty: everything that you're saying? 912 01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:18.240 Eilidh Locherty: Build, build. You want to make sure there's a reason behind everything. 913 01:13:18.480 --> 01:13:20.470 Eilidh Locherty: So you want to get invested. 914 01:13:21.490 --> 01:13:22.970 Eilidh Locherty: Then drop that 915 01:13:23.750 --> 01:13:26.040 Eilidh Locherty: metaphorical bomb 916 01:13:27.420 --> 01:13:28.570 Eilidh Locherty: and then 917 01:13:29.010 --> 01:13:30.640 Eilidh Locherty: make it painful for them. 918 01:13:31.980 --> 01:13:40.960 Eilidh Locherty: as you can probably tell by now. I like causing characters pain? So when you write a scene, you want to set back, you need to take a break 919 01:13:41.090 --> 01:13:45.190 Eilidh Locherty: and make sure that you're squeezing everything you want to get out of it. 920 01:13:46.260 --> 01:13:50.669 Eilidh Locherty: because you don't want things to be too easy. You don't want to lose momentum 921 01:13:51.210 --> 01:13:54.240 Eilidh Locherty: and think of a mystery if they find clues, who easily. 922 01:13:54.510 --> 01:13:59.650 Eilidh Locherty: Where's the fun? And how are you going to make it interesting for the characters moving forward? 923 01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:09.680 Eilidh Locherty: So when you ramp up the stakes. You want to make sure that you don't resolve things too quickly. It's better to give them little pieces here and there. 924 01:14:09.830 --> 01:14:12.620 Eilidh Locherty: and then let things kind of go from there. 925 01:14:13.610 --> 01:14:15.120 Eilidh Locherty: Oh, there we go. 926 01:14:16.670 --> 01:14:20.130 Eilidh Locherty: and I'm not having much luck with Canva at the moment. 927 01:14:20.740 --> 01:14:23.789 Eilidh Locherty: No editing my favorite part. 928 01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:26.300 Eilidh Locherty: So 929 01:14:26.570 --> 01:14:29.449 Eilidh Locherty: you want to make sure you cut necessary scenes. 930 01:14:29.480 --> 01:14:31.520 Eilidh Locherty: So that's a big part. So 931 01:14:31.660 --> 01:14:35.329 Eilidh Locherty: even though I'm not a developmental editor, a big part of 932 01:14:35.610 --> 01:14:43.170 Eilidh Locherty: what I do when I read novels is, make sure that each scene is still necessary, because, even though I'm not a development 933 01:14:43.750 --> 01:14:45.980 Eilidh Locherty: developmental editor. 934 01:14:46.310 --> 01:14:55.890 Eilidh Locherty: it's still a big part of my job to make sure that each line makes sense for the novel. Now you want to review each scene 935 01:14:56.370 --> 01:14:59.619 Eilidh Locherty: and make sure that conflict makes sense for your store 936 01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:01.439 Eilidh Locherty: doesn't make sense. 937 01:15:01.530 --> 01:15:04.200 Eilidh Locherty: Is it important? Will it move the plot forward 938 01:15:04.650 --> 01:15:12.359 Eilidh Locherty: if it doesn't introduce or escalate tension? Or if it doesn't make sense for this character or the store cut out. 939 01:15:12.890 --> 01:15:18.230 Eilidh Locherty: Now you want to tighten pacing, so look for the spots where things drag. 940 01:15:18.310 --> 01:15:22.680 Eilidh Locherty: You want to cut long and unnecessary descriptions out 941 01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:30.390 Eilidh Locherty: one thing. If you're going to take anything away from this talk, I want you 942 01:15:30.550 --> 01:15:35.160 Eilidh Locherty: to think to yourself while you're editing while you're writing. Is this scene. 943 01:15:36.220 --> 01:15:37.470 Eilidh Locherty: Important 944 01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:39.100 Eilidh Locherty: to the store. 945 01:15:39.630 --> 01:15:47.409 Eilidh Locherty: Is this scene going to be something that will very much be something that you need to have 946 01:15:47.750 --> 01:15:54.230 Eilidh Locherty: in the novel for the tension or insert, seen here to make sense. 947 01:15:54.860 --> 01:16:04.699 Eilidh Locherty: Now you want to balance that action with the ruffle action. Now it's great and fun to see the element of how tense, and. 948 01:16:04.900 --> 01:16:05.859 Eilidh Locherty: you know. 949 01:16:06.420 --> 01:16:14.420 Eilidh Locherty: terrifying for some instances, how that could be exciting. But you need to make sure that you go back. 950 01:16:14.690 --> 01:16:16.710 Eilidh Locherty: And for that character. 951 01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.069 Eilidh Locherty: Are they going to reflect on these things 952 01:16:20.080 --> 01:16:26.359 Eilidh Locherty: and respond in the way that they would respond realistically because a lot of the time 953 01:16:26.750 --> 01:16:31.669 Eilidh Locherty: it's great to have that action. But some people do forget to bring in 954 01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:43.149 Eilidh Locherty: that reflection and that thing to mean that you push that thing forward and the character development, because character development is a big part of conflict and tension. 955 01:16:44.110 --> 01:16:53.930 Eilidh Locherty: Now, as you edit, ask if the stakes are clear and high enough throughout the story, make sure that even in the middle of the story that it makes sense, and that 956 01:16:54.740 --> 01:16:58.570 Eilidh Locherty: if there's anything that you should remove or clarify. 957 01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:01.060 Eilidh Locherty: do it because it's really important. 958 01:17:01.420 --> 01:17:04.449 Eilidh Locherty: and at the end of the day there's not enough. 959 01:17:04.460 --> 01:17:06.999 Eilidh Locherty: There's not too much sticks 960 01:17:07.570 --> 01:17:10.480 Eilidh Locherty: as long as it makes sense for that character. 961 01:17:12.190 --> 01:17:12.990 Eilidh Locherty: No. 962 01:17:14.740 --> 01:17:19.670 Eilidh Locherty: I can promise you. This is the last few things last few bits 963 01:17:20.250 --> 01:17:21.770 Eilidh Locherty: spot the difference. 964 01:17:23.440 --> 01:17:26.409 Eilidh Locherty: Gun walked down the hallway, feeling uneasy. 965 01:17:26.470 --> 01:17:30.240 Eilidh Locherty: she grabbed the doorknob and opened the door. It was dark inside. 966 01:17:30.470 --> 01:17:33.230 Eilidh Locherty: She stepped forward and the floor creaked. 967 01:17:34.020 --> 01:17:39.840 Eilidh Locherty: The next one is June. Tiptoe toed down the hallway, her pulse quickening with each step. 968 01:17:40.140 --> 01:17:42.560 Eilidh Locherty: The air was thick. Stifling. 969 01:17:43.120 --> 01:17:53.890 Eilidh Locherty: Her trembling fingers hovered over the doorknob. She twisted it slowly. The door creaked, darkness spilling out like a warning. She froze the floor, groaning beneath her. 970 01:17:55.130 --> 01:17:55.930 Eilidh Locherty: If 971 01:17:56.230 --> 01:17:57.580 Eilidh Locherty: anybody 972 01:17:58.180 --> 01:18:00.270 Eilidh Locherty: is feeling confident. 973 01:18:01.250 --> 01:18:05.360 Eilidh Locherty: which version do you prefer 974 01:18:05.940 --> 01:18:07.409 Eilidh Locherty: with the description? 975 01:18:12.620 --> 01:18:13.579 Eilidh Locherty: The second one. 976 01:18:16.770 --> 01:18:18.350 Eilidh Locherty: I I agree. 977 01:18:20.070 --> 01:18:26.240 Eilidh Locherty: Yeah. Now, the reason why, this is a very big part of why. 978 01:18:26.280 --> 01:18:29.200 Eilidh Locherty: it's better. And 979 01:18:32.040 --> 01:18:34.329 Eilidh Locherty: looking at the comments here. 980 01:18:34.890 --> 01:18:49.990 Eilidh Locherty: Yes, Pat Rick, it is slightly overwritten, but I did that on purpose just to make the signs obvious in terms of the description. A big part of editing would be to cut down to make sure that that tension is 981 01:18:50.040 --> 01:18:51.060 Eilidh Locherty: heightened. 982 01:18:51.310 --> 01:19:00.280 Eilidh Locherty: but better in terms of the writing of it. But I agree the second is better because of the level of description. 983 01:19:01.050 --> 01:19:02.200 Eilidh Locherty: Second one. 984 01:19:02.290 --> 01:19:07.080 Eilidh Locherty: John glared at Mark. I can't believe you went went behind my back. 985 01:19:07.440 --> 01:19:08.680 Eilidh Locherty: Adam shrugged. 986 01:19:09.150 --> 01:19:13.760 Eilidh Locherty: Didn't think it was a big deal. John clenches fist. Well, it is 987 01:19:14.210 --> 01:19:15.560 Eilidh Locherty: second example. 988 01:19:15.670 --> 01:19:20.790 Eilidh Locherty: John's fist curled. You went behind my back. His voice was tight, barely controlled. 989 01:19:21.280 --> 01:19:27.579 Eilidh Locherty: Mark leaned back, a smirk playing on his lips. You weren't handling it. John's breath hitched. I trusted you. 990 01:19:28.590 --> 01:19:30.290 Eilidh Locherty: What would you prefer 991 01:19:32.730 --> 01:19:36.799 Eilidh Locherty: or not only prefer, but which one shows 992 01:19:37.300 --> 01:19:39.859 Eilidh Locherty: the emotion and the tension a bit more. 993 01:19:51.190 --> 01:19:52.110 Eilidh Locherty: Okay. 994 01:20:00.460 --> 01:20:02.569 Eilidh Locherty: that is a very good point. 995 01:20:03.110 --> 01:20:05.160 Eilidh Locherty: I'd like to point this out that 996 01:20:05.230 --> 01:20:10.200 Eilidh Locherty: this is a very good point. Both do show different kinds of emotions. 997 01:20:10.420 --> 01:20:13.469 Eilidh Locherty: Now, it depends on how? 998 01:20:13.570 --> 01:20:15.130 Eilidh Locherty: No, in this instance 999 01:20:16.280 --> 01:20:20.519 Eilidh Locherty: it depends on the motion that you're trying to dictate. 1000 01:20:22.510 --> 01:20:27.560 Eilidh Locherty: Now, are you trying to show more anger? Are you trying to show more upset. 1001 01:20:28.050 --> 01:20:31.209 Eilidh Locherty: Are you trying to show more tension, or are you just trying to 1002 01:20:31.460 --> 01:20:33.970 Eilidh Locherty: just be open and honest? 1003 01:20:34.090 --> 01:20:39.079 Eilidh Locherty: Now, there's no right answer here because of the fact 1004 01:20:39.120 --> 01:20:43.980 Eilidh Locherty: that both of them show 2 different kinds of emotions in 2 different ways. 1005 01:20:44.570 --> 01:20:50.450 Eilidh Locherty: There's no wrong or right answer in terms of any of these, I just put these. 1006 01:20:51.050 --> 01:20:52.230 Eilidh Locherty: Yes. 1007 01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:02.500 Eilidh Locherty: Oh. 1008 01:21:03.250 --> 01:21:06.899 Eilidh Locherty: now this is why proofreading is important. I was meant to put Adam inside of Mark. 1009 01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:23.920 Eilidh Locherty: Even a proof. Even an editor needs an editor. Everybody take that away from this entire talk. Please please make that from this talk. Even an editor needs an editor. 1010 01:21:24.150 --> 01:21:26.129 Eilidh Locherty: Mark is Adam. 1011 01:21:30.170 --> 01:21:31.120 Eilidh Locherty: Yeah. 1012 01:21:31.530 --> 01:21:38.109 Eilidh Locherty: yes. So either way, both of them are correct. It just depends on the emotion that you're trying to convey 1013 01:21:38.730 --> 01:21:40.709 Eilidh Locherty: no last one. 1014 01:21:40.780 --> 01:21:44.100 Eilidh Locherty: Sarah crossed her arms. Now I hope that I've not put any more. 1015 01:21:46.360 --> 01:21:48.000 Eilidh Locherty: Yes, I have, have I? 1016 01:21:48.420 --> 01:21:49.599 Eilidh Locherty: Yes, I have. I'm just 1017 01:21:50.160 --> 01:21:51.180 Eilidh Locherty: my God. 1018 01:21:53.120 --> 01:21:54.670 Eilidh Locherty: we're not doing that one. 1019 01:21:55.913 --> 01:21:57.519 Eilidh Locherty: Remember, guys. 1020 01:21:58.424 --> 01:22:02.669 Eilidh Locherty: Conflict and tension is a big part of the story. 1021 01:22:04.280 --> 01:22:09.149 Eilidh Locherty: Yes, perfecting is the editor's best friend, and there's a reason for that. 1022 01:22:10.620 --> 01:22:24.169 Eilidh Locherty: Fiction is very important to have conflict and tension, regardless of the storm. And you want to make sure that you use pacing body language, emotional depth in order to keep the tension going. 1023 01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:25.510 Eilidh Locherty: No 1024 01:22:25.850 --> 01:22:33.430 Eilidh Locherty: use stakes, use internal conflict, external conflict, non verbal cues, subtle details, tonal shifts. 1025 01:22:34.310 --> 01:22:47.180 Eilidh Locherty: and you need to make sure at the end of the day. Everything is personal for that specific character. What might be important to one character might not be for a specific side character which might also bring some tension. 1026 01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:56.060 Eilidh Locherty: Now, usually this is where we'd say Q. And a. But I am very mindful of the time. 1027 01:22:56.370 --> 01:22:58.499 Eilidh Locherty: so I will leave it there. 1028 01:22:59.610 --> 01:23:01.229 Eilidh Locherty: Last thing 1029 01:23:01.400 --> 01:23:11.890 Eilidh Locherty: I'd love to connect with you all my! My handle is down there. Chapter Advisoryo. I'm on Facebook. Instagram Tiktok sadly. 1030 01:23:12.794 --> 01:23:17.659 Eilidh Locherty: threads. I don't get along with Tiktok at all, and if you would like to connect. 1031 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:30.620 Eilidh Locherty: I am@www.chapter range, you know.com. I am offering a discount to anybody who needs services for this year. Only 25% with the code pro ring aid 1032 01:23:30.670 --> 01:23:32.200 Eilidh Locherty: sci-fi writers week. 1033 01:23:33.460 --> 01:23:35.359 Tom Wilde: I've just added that to Chat Haley. 1034 01:23:35.360 --> 01:23:41.430 Eilidh Locherty: Oh, yes, it's that one. Yes, thank you very much. And remember, even an editor needs an editor. 1035 01:23:43.590 --> 01:23:52.259 Tom Wilde: I hey, Ailey, I want to just say a huge Thank you. I hope you didn't find the overrun too stressful. Honestly. 1036 01:23:52.260 --> 01:23:54.899 Eilidh Locherty: And stressful. I was just too anxious. 1037 01:23:54.900 --> 01:24:01.229 Tom Wilde: Yeah, no, I I totally understand that. And I can't believe that's your 1st time is just brilliant. So huge. 1038 01:24:01.681 --> 01:24:07.320 Tom Wilde: Thanks for me and and appreciation from everyone, as you can see right now in chat. Great to have you. 1039 01:24:07.320 --> 01:24:12.189 Eilidh Locherty: Overwhelmed with the support. Thank you very much for everybody who's 1040 01:24:12.470 --> 01:24:28.469 Eilidh Locherty: joined. I was keeping an eye out on the little kind of thing of you know who's interested, and I was very surprised to see the difference from the Rsvp. To now to like at the call. So I was like, Oh, oh, God! That was a big leap. 1041 01:24:28.470 --> 01:24:40.829 Tom Wilde: Yeah, yeah, off in the way, what? What we'll do? And if it's okay with you is, we will put all of the questions that have been asked in a spreadsheet and send them over to you. And 1042 01:24:41.370 --> 01:25:00.370 Tom Wilde: when you get a chance to just put some replies together, if that's okay, we'll put those in the Hub, so people can see the questions being answered in the Hub. So thank you. To those who who had questions during today's session, and thanks for everybody contributed to chat as well. It's always great to see what's going on there. 1043 01:25:00.370 --> 01:25:20.049 Tom Wilde: and the and the input and interaction going on. So yeah, thank you. Once again. Do stick around. Don't forget to join us actually, in a little over half an hour. If you want to join for the last session of today, which is with Marco Bannon. Really interesting looking session. Called the nearest stars. So hopefully 1044 01:25:20.050 --> 01:25:32.629 Tom Wilde: you'll enjoy that and the rest of Sci-fi writes this week. Thanks for signing up. Thanks for being here. But biggest thanks of all reserved for a today. Thanks, Aylie, and we'll see you again soon. 1045 01:25:33.370 --> 01:25:34.180 Eilidh Locherty: Take care!